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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393173 - 09/10/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dune Ender's Game Nine Princes in Amber
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Gastronomicus]
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: jewunit]
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Ender's Game is an awesome book, but I've already read it. As well as the two sequels (Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide) that were worth reading...
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393195 - 09/10/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Read Ender's Shadow? It's about Bean.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393196 - 09/10/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wouldn't really call it fantasy, definitely not sci fi, but its a helluva good read if you haven't picked it up already.
american gods by neil gaiman. If you like clive barkers works you should like gaiman's
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393259 - 09/10/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hard to do better than the chronicles of amber (the amber series) I do hope you've read The Lord of the Rings, or the Hobbit\ The original Dragonlance books were pretty good too. elric is on the dark side
oh yes..The Illuminatus Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson READ IT
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Taco Chef]
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You're like the only other person I know who's read the Amber series, which is odd because they're so so good
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393301 - 09/10/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Journey to the center of the earth
By Jules Verne who is effectively the creator of the Science Fiction Genre
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7393307 - 09/10/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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really? as soon as I read them, I passed them around to all my friends...
but yeah, i do think of them as the classics of the genre...not tolkien or such, but highly original, solid plotting, and really incredible characters.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Taco Chef]
#7393325 - 09/10/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Startide Rising
Dune was mentioned upthread, it's worth re-reading every few years.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Taco Chef]
#7393350 - 09/10/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Corwin all the way
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Gastronomicus]
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: jewunit]
#7393399 - 09/10/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Different Corwin. Instead of playing with snakes, he stabs people in the face
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393403 - 09/10/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rendezvous With Rama The City and the Stars
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Chubba]
#7393491 - 09/10/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein. Its Sci-fi by far, but you may remember parts of it from your history classes.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: coda]
#7393509 - 09/10/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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coda said: I wouldn't really call it fantasy, definitely not sci fi, but its a helluva good read if you haven't picked it up already.
American gods by neil gaiman. If you like clive barkers works you should like gaiman's
Great book, have you read the Anansi Boys? I picked it up the other day. yet to read it though.
A good Sci-Fi author Is Raymond E Feist pre 95 circa, and then his Serpent War series is a good series.
It gets pretty cerebral at times, when you the characters go to Navigate the Hall Of Worlds. This largely uncharted Hall in the cosmos with doors adorning both side leading to different worlds, realities and time signatures.
i really enjoy them
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393621 - 09/10/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Mote in God's Eye
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7393683 - 09/10/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dune.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Ellis Dee]
#7393832 - 09/10/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Daughter of the Blood by Anne Bishop. It's part 1 of a trilogy. I am re-reading it right now and I almost never read a book twice.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7394255 - 09/10/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ender's Game
Ugggg.... What do people see in this book? Honestly... I think its crap. Its a book about kids, for kids. Ender routinely gets put in a new situation where hes not expected to prevail, and prevails. This happens time and time again. The book is so predictable... The ending is trite, anyone can see it coming. Im sorry, that book is so bad, I have to rant about every time I see it mentioned.
For a good sci-fi read the Foundation trilogy by Asimov. Im surprised nobody mentioned it, its awesome. Also, Clarke is good. I seen a few of his books mentioned, try Childhood's End.
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Rendezvous With Rama The City and the Stars
Both excellent The city and the stars was one of Clarke's first books (if not the first?) The 'critics' frown upon it, but I think it is a masterpiece. The only problem is it ends the same way all Clarke's book's end. Humanity transcending their corporeal existence... But still, its good. Rendezvous with Rama is also excellent, and doesn't end in the traditional Clarke way.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: DieCommie]
#7394268 - 09/10/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with you, I think I like it because I first read it when I was 11 or 12, so I felt more of a connection since the characters were around my age. Gave me a good first impression. It's like Star Wars. Honestly those movies kinda suck, but I still like them because they were the shit to me when I was younger.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7394271 - 09/10/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Wheel of Time series.
11 out of 12 of the books are out, the 12th probably will be in a year or two. Good fantasy series, but it will suck your time away...I got to where I was reading 1-2 of these a week last summer when I was reading them.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: jewunit]
#7394295 - 09/10/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jewunit said: I agree with you, I think I like it because I first read it when I was 11 or 12, so I felt more of a connection since the characters were around my age.
Im glad somebody finally agrees with me. Id rate you 5 again if I could 
To the OP: I dont think I emphasized it enough in my post... Read Foundation Read FOUNDATION READ FOUNDATION READ THE FOUNDATION, THE WHOLE TRILOGY AT ONCE You can get the whole trilogy off of half.com in one book for real cheap.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: morphius2661]
#7394297 - 09/10/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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morphius2661 said: The Wheel of Time series.
11 out of 12 of the books are out, the 12th probably will be in a year or two. Good fantasy series, but it will suck your time away...I got to where I was reading 1-2 of these a week last summer when I was reading them.
When I first started reading the wheel of time series I was like shit.
that was when I was very young. Now, since I am much older I hve come to realize. That author is EXTRAoridnary, his ability to describe single moments in perception is quite fantastic. His ability ot texture a story and take it to way more than three dimensions is awesome. Oh yeah, did I mention he is a physics major that served in VIetnam?
They say a lot of times that Stories are on the same level as Tolkien, well this epic story surpasses Tolkien as many ties as the third Dimension suprasses the second.
If your attetnion span isn't that of the dullard, then you will be greatly enriched for having braved the world of Robert Jordan.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7394309 - 09/10/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: In(di)go]
#7394685 - 09/11/07 12:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Steven Eirckson A Tale of The Malazan Book of the Fallen is TOP NOTCH. Robert Jorden is TOP NOTCH as well. George RR Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice is great as well. Fiest is decent but doesn't compare to those three.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
#7394737 - 09/11/07 01:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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LukeMWSki said: Steven Eirckson A Tale of The Malazan Book of the Fallen is TOP NOTCH. Robert Jorden is TOP NOTCH as well. George RR Martin's A Song of Fire and Ice is great as well. Fiest is decent but doesn't compare to those three.
Sorry but early Feist, 81 thru 94 is awesome stuff to read. the ways inwhich he manifests characters is so accessible.
Sure, the stories are,t as deep or epic, far reaching etc as George RR Marin, or Jordan or whatever but the characters are so easy to relate to and the stories aren't quite as melancholic. He is an amazing read up until chronlogically speaking the Krondor series and publishing wise after serpent war series.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#7394751 - 09/11/07 01:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really wasn't a fan of a song of ice and fire excpet for the character of Tyrion. He was offed in the thrid one, I think. Its been awhile since I have read them. I though the books to be slow and prodding in plot archs. I think people like those books becasue the covers are shiny.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7395396 - 09/11/07 07:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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neuromancer - william gibson
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
#7395403 - 09/11/07 07:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ummm The Hobbit Warhammer Series The Aprentice (revenge of The Witch) Eragon umm Harry Potter Goblinwood ummm thast all i can think of right now
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7395446 - 09/11/07 08:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Childhood's End, by Arthur C. Clark
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7395505 - 09/11/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Philip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" trilogy starting with The Golden Compass. I'm eighty pages from the close of the third and final novel. it's epic, it's wonderful.
And Trendal's suggestion is one of the best books I have ever read, hands down.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7395747 - 09/11/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree with everyone who said Robert Jordan.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: mushbaby]
#7395768 - 09/11/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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SNOW CRASH!
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Leinahtan]
#7395844 - 09/11/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread is useless without Dan Simmons.
Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion, Endymion/Rise of Endymion
Ilium and Olympos.
All the dudes who suggest you get into Wheel of Time are EDIT
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7395866 - 09/11/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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earth - david brin
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7396071 - 09/11/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just started reading the Pullman series and really enjoy the unorthodoxness of it Plus I like the cover art.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
#7396092 - 09/11/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly, it just gets better and better and better and better.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: morphius2661]
#7396220 - 09/11/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> The Wheel of Time series.
I would second (or whatever the count is) that; by Robert Jordan. It is a cross between The Hobbit books and the Dune books, with an extra 10,000 pages thrown in. Only down side is that Robert Jordan is sick and it is doubtful that he will be able to complete the series the way he had planned.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Seuss]
#7396268 - 09/11/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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sick with what?
Agent orange most likely. j/k
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
#7396281 - 09/11/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definately
I didn't really like the sequals, the world Pullman created was such a cool place, I didn't want Lyra to leave it
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Gastronomicus]
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: geedorah]
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i cant believe that no one mentioned douglas adams yet he represents the lighter side of Sci-Fi. extremely witty and quirky and interesting. He wrote Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy which was recently turned into a pretty shitty movie, although they tried. READ HITCHIKER'S GUIDE!! (in order) (there are 4 or 5 of them) you definitely won't regret it.
Also, the douglas adams of fantasy is terry pratchett, who is one funny motherfucker. he has published a SHITLOAD of books about a fantasy world that he has created called Discworld. I suggest reading the Colour of Magic first and then randomly from there. Terry pratchett is good for a short, funny read, I pick his books up at the library all the time when im bored.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: SampaJasli]
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Great book, have you read the Anansi Boys? I picked it up the other day. yet to read it though.
Not yet, my gf has it and when her stuff arrives in the moving truck ill be able to snatch it up and read it. She was the one who suggested to read gods and im glad she did, i had a real hard time putting it down.
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He wrote Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy which was recently turned into a pretty shitty movie, although they tried.
I really liked the original UK version, but i thought the recent remake made for a decent watch if you were a fan of the series. I really liked mos def in the film and i thought they kept it as least as humorous as the original, but you're right in a way, nothing compares to the book. Adams is a great author, i got into him after reading holistic detective agency.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: coda]
#7397200 - 09/11/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> sick with what?
Amyloidosis. The median survival after diagnosis is about two years.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Seuss]
#7397209 - 09/11/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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damn that sucks. I hate it when authiors create these ever spanning worlds and stories and then die before they can wrap things up. It so damned inconsiderate.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: coda]
#7397211 - 09/11/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> Adams is a great author
Was. Died on May 11, 2001 at 49 years of age.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Seuss]
#7397227 - 09/11/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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well i'll be, i didn't even know that happened. Shame, RIP adams.
-------------------- To get really high is to forget yourself. And to forget yourself is to see everything else. And to see everything else is to become an understanding molecule in evolution, a conscious tool of the universe. And I think every human being should be a conscious tool of the universe. . . . -JG i really am glad you came back to us instead of taking the other path. *hug* -A_S (RIP your final words to me will never be forgotten)
 Don't fuck with the laughing jesus.
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Seuss]
#7397236 - 09/11/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: > sick with what?
Amyloidosis. The median survival after diagnosis is about two years.
so he has alzheimer's?
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7398638 - 09/11/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't believe no one has mentioned Philip K. Dick yet! (unless someone has and I missed it.)
So, my favorite books by him are "Ubik" "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" and "The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch"
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Re: Quickquickquick recommend a good sci-fi or fantasy book [Re: Lion]
#7398680 - 09/11/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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We should start a vvvvv free sci-fi book vvvvvv thread
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