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What should I use my grains for?
    #7392972 - 09/10/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hello, I have done a successful PF cake grow, and I have now knocked up some grains and awaiting them to become fully colonized (it's been 2.5wks and theyre gettin close). I want to try a monotub, but I keep reading where people's monotubs are getting contamed and its scaring me, despite 0% contams so far. What do ya'll think, how easy are monotubs to get contamed? Should I risk it and try or split up into multiple casings?


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7392981 - 09/10/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Monotubs are easy as long as you follow proper procedure. I went straight to monotub my very first grow.

If you are worried though you should create a fruiting chamber and try fruiting using several casings on perlite or something of that nature.


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For the record, I would show you my butthole but you would fall down and worship it as a God and you would give up everything to roam the land converting the heathens by fire and sword. Millions would die. No, no the cost is too great. I cannot.



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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7392996 - 09/10/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well what I was going to do is sit the tub at about waist level (since they say that most contams are like within a foot or so of the ground) and do my normal spray-pretty-much-half-a-fuckin-can of oust into the air until I'm practically high off the fumes, do the 70% isopropyl clean gloves/etc along with the N95 dust mask (I've been following MM's sterility tek) and just be generally really clean with it.

As for my monotub, I was going to use straight coir w/a tiny bit of bloodmeal, use 7.5 pH buffer to neutralize the pH, and that was gonna be my substrate. My spawn is WBS. As for the casing, I was just gonna get straight MGMC w/pH buffer.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7392997 - 09/10/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Keep sterile procedure to the maximum level and you'll do fine with a monotub. Just follow the tek to a T the first time you do it. From there, you'll know how they work and you can start improving your own technique!
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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7393010 - 09/10/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You don't need to have a sterile tub for spawning FYI. Just keep it clean. Don't use Lysol on it, go for bleach water if you are going to clean it. 20 parts water to 1 part bleach.

The key is pasteurization of your substrate. Do that and everything will be OK.

Also when you case it is important to know your p.h. levels. You want your casing at 7.5 - 8 Ph.

You want your substrate in the mid 6 p.h. level.


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For the record, I would show you my butthole but you would fall down and worship it as a God and you would give up everything to roam the land converting the heathens by fire and sword. Millions would die. No, no the cost is too great. I cannot.



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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7393022 - 09/10/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This is true, although sterile procedure is a good habit to get into.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Mankey]
    #7393026 - 09/10/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yes it is. No argument there. :thumbup:


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7393038 - 09/10/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Alright. One thing I am kind of confused about is the water content of the substrate/casing layer. I'm afraid of getting it too wet, because MM's tek doesn't say much about how wet the sub or casing should be. He just says he added dist. h2o and pH buffer until field capacity, which I'm assuming that means until the pH is where it needs to be.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7393043 - 09/10/07 06:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

lol, what the fuck is that in your sig ted? I hope its sterile.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7393049 - 09/10/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh and real quick how long should it take half a quart (quart filled half way with WBS) to fully colonize? I used a karo LC (it wasn't real thick) and I heard that LC colonizes a lot quicker than spores, but it seems like its taking too long. I think I may just be paranoid though :smile:


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7393053 - 09/10/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Id say give it around 10 days.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7393056 - 09/10/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Do more reading on Ph buffers.

Search Ph and RogerRabbits name.

You want your substrate to be at field capacity. That means if you give a a soft squeeze you will only get a small drip of water to run out. I mean a single drip at that. If you squeeze hard you will a few drips to come out.

Drier is better.

Do a search on you tube regarding RR's DVD I believe it briefly shows it in the Hpoo short clip.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7393063 - 09/10/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

10-20 days, 10 being very fast and 20 being slow as hell,


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: dutchmushroom]
    #7393078 - 09/10/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well it's already been about 20 days. Do you mean 20 more days?


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: Nickio]
    #7393082 - 09/10/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Did you shake your jars at 20% colonization? If you shake up your jars and break up the mycelium at 20-30% colonization it will greatly speed up those jars.


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Re: What should I use my grains for? [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7393107 - 09/10/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, at least from the outside point of view. Myc quickly grew back out to the outsides and I guess because of my lack of patience I shook them again, and it looks like it's barely colonized again. It's not contamed or anything, but I figured it'd take at least a month to get it colonized but if you guys are saying 10 days then I must have done something wrong.


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