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Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence
#7392048 - 09/10/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1961.asp
video, audio and transcript are all on that link
Here's the story:
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"Missouri: Police Threaten, Detain Motorist for Parking After Hours A St. George, Missouri police officer is caught on tape threatening to invent charges to arrest a motorist for parking after hours.
Brett Darrow videoA motorist who refused to discuss his personal business with a St. George, Missouri police officer was threatened with arrest last Friday. Brett Darrow, 20, no stranger to unconventional encounters with police, caught a St. George Police Sergeant named Kenline stating that he had the power to invent charges that would put Darrow behind bars.
"Try and talk back... to me again," yelled Sergeant Kenline. "I bet I could say you resisted arrest or something. You want to come up with something? I come up with nine things."
The incident began at around 2am. Darrow was to meet a friend who was working late and was going to pick him up. Darrow headed toward a 24-hour commuter parking lot in an unincorporated part of Saint Louis County in his 1997 Nissan Maxima. He put on his turn signal and entered the lot which, aside from Kenline's cruiser, was essentially vacant. After stopping the car, the police officer approached and began questioning Darrow about what he was doing. When Darrow declined to discuss his personal business, the police sergeant exploded. Although the video clearly shows Darrow driving properly and using his turn signal, the police officer insisted that Darrow had broken the law.
"Oh, while you were coming towards me you were swerving back and forth within the roadway," Sergeant Kenline said. "I might give you a ticket for that. You want me to come up with some more? When you turned in, you failed to use your turn signal, your right turn signal."
Without the video, Darrow points out that he would have stood no chance disproving the officer's word in court. Twenty-eight percent of the St. George municipal budget comes from traffic citations. Darrow wonders how many of the tickets were legitimate.
"Looking into this guys eyes, he was crazy," Darrow said. "I was really scared he was going to assault me. I just wonder how many other people have been arrested on these charges."
After ordering Darrow against the car and searching him, Sergeant Kenline released the motorist."
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7392062 - 09/10/07 01:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Scary.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: xFrockx]
#7392083 - 09/10/07 02:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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indeed, it brings back some pretty nasty memories myself.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7392108 - 09/10/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i hate cops
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: xpl0de]
#7392114 - 09/10/07 02:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope it makes CNN.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392189 - 09/10/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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as do i, but i really doubt it will
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7392471 - 09/10/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7392484 - 09/10/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's only one thing that the kid really did wrong in the video. If you're parked in a commuter lot at 2am .. it is a bit suspicious. The cop fucking with him was totally unreasonable and reserves a cactus up his ass, but he should have given the cop a little slack from the start. What the fuck do you expect a cop to do when he sees someone sitting in the only car in the entire parking lot at 2am.
Now the other video they showed of the DWI stop in the middle of the road.... he was full within his rights not to tell the cops where he was going...
but c'mon.. 2am.... middle of a commuter lot. Let the cop do his job and just tell him you're sitting there waiting to pick up a friend.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392502 - 09/10/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392524 - 09/10/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
#7392529 - 09/10/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like how he started backtracking towards the end after the reality sunk in that he was being taped.
There's a link to a SECOND video in that story where something similar happened to the SAME KID not too long before. He totally pwned the cops if you read the transcript. At the very end he pointed his camera at the cops out the window who were looking back.. almost in a "nya nya nyaaa" kinda gesture and then took off..
Fuckin hilarious. Too bad the fucked up his car.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392536 - 09/10/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> If you're parked in a commuter lot at 2am .. it is a bit suspicious.
Around here, it is illegal to talk on your cell phone while driving. Assuming I was needing to make a call, and I saw a lit public parking lot, I would pull over in the lot to make my call. This is a bit suspicious, how, exactly? Only if you already have your mind made up that I am doing something illegal.
Was there a no trespassing after dark sign? Was there a closed gate? Nope. If you are going to call what the guy did wrong, then you have to call being out after dark wrong. I can't imagine that you are advocating curfews in order to appear non-suspicious?
I usually defend police, as most of them are decent people. This is an example of inexcusable behavior by an officer that is sworn to uphold the law, to protect and to serve the public. He violated his oath, and for that, I have no forgiveness or respect. His ass should be fired. Can you imagine an employee of any other occupation retaining their job after treating a customer like that?
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7392579 - 09/10/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Youre right... by saying that it's suspicious that someone would be out at 2am in a commuter lot (a place very susceptible to crime at night) all by himself and that a copy should take a look to see what's going on.. must mean I'm advocating curfews. Because they totally mean the same thing.
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Seuss said: > If you're parked in a commuter lot at 2am .. it is a bit suspicious.
Around here, it is illegal to talk on your cell phone while driving. Assuming I was needing to make a call, and I saw a lit public parking lot, I would pull over in the lot to make my call. This is a bit suspicious, how, exactly? Only if you already have your mind made up that I am doing something illegal.
Was there a no trespassing after dark sign? Was there a closed gate? Nope. If you are going to call what the guy did wrong, then you have to call being out after dark wrong. I can't imagine that you are advocating curfews in order to appear non-suspicious?
I usually defend police, as most of them are decent people. This is an example of inexcusable behavior by an officer that is sworn to uphold the law, to protect and to serve the public. He violated his oath, and for that, I have no forgiveness or respect. His ass should be fired. Can you imagine an employee of any other occupation retaining their job after treating a customer like that?
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392585 - 09/10/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Notice how the cop immediately claims he's doing something illegal, strange I recall hearing about something like innocent till proven guilty.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7392592 - 09/10/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seeing as how 99% of people from MIZUURRA are red neck meth neads....
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392607 - 09/10/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I guess our forefathers wasted their time on that whole, right to speedy trial, innocent before proven guilty.
When I was a witness to a murder ( I reported human remains) I Immediately became the first suspect, even though the murder occured itleast 2 or 3 years ago, this countries justice system was more coherent during the old west.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392612 - 09/10/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: I like how he started backtracking towards the end after the reality sunk in that he was being taped.
There's a link to a SECOND video in that story where something similar happened to the SAME KID not too long before. He totally pwned the cops if you read the transcript. At the very end he pointed his camera at the cops out the window who were looking back.. almost in a "nya nya nyaaa" kinda gesture and then took off..
Fuckin hilarious. Too bad the fucked up his car.
wow, i overlooked that link!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2585482423715017278
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7392628 - 09/10/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: I guess our forefathers wasted their time on that whole, right to speedy trial, innocent before proven guilty.
When I was a witness to a murder ( I reported human remains) I Immediately became the first suspect, even though the murder occured itleast 2 or 3 years ago, this countries justice system was more coherent during the old west.
Do you people just hear what you want to hear? Or did you totally miss the part where I said that the cop deserved to get assraped by a cactus?
And I don't know about you guys. But I think if a copy sees someone sitting in an empty commuter parking lot (a place largely susceptible to crime in the middle of the night) by himself at 2am in the middle of nowhere he has an obligation to at least take a look or else he wouldn't be doing his job. Did I ever say that anyone sitting in a parking lot at 2am is automatically guilty of anything?
I don't know about you guys, but when I was younger, the times where I was out at 2am in the middle of nowhere by myself or with someone else... I was pretty much up to no good :P
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7392637 - 09/10/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cops lie all the time! I had one cop, I mentioned it a couple weeks ago, how he pulled me over and lied and said I was speeding and I had to bring up on the GPS system the speed I was travelling and flatout told him he was lying. I'm much more of a dick than this kid... that cop was just way out of line.
Knowing me though I'd have threatened to ruin his 20+ year career as a cop for excessive force and violence towards innocent civilians, and said "go ahead and arrest me hardass."
Cops don't really know the law as well as they like to say they do. Lawyers are better suited for those kind of threatening words.
Edited by DRTMaverick (09/10/07 04:42 PM)
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Maverick]
#7392649 - 09/10/07 04:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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DRTMaverick said: Cops lie all the time! I had one cop, I mentioned it a couple weeks ago, how he pulled me over and lied and said I was speeding and I had to bring up on the GPS system the speed I was travelling and flatout told him he was lying. I'm much more of a dick than this kid... that cop was just way out of line.
Knowing me though I'd have threatened to ruin his 20+ year career as a cop for excessive force and violence towards innocent civilians, and said "go ahead and arrest me hardass."
Cops don't really know the law as well as they like to say they do. Lawyers are better suited for those kind of threatening words.
Someone should start selling camera's to install in regular cars for situations where people get pulled over and want to easily conceal a camera to record cops abusing their power.
Nowadays it seems like you need one.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392665 - 09/10/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm gonna get a video camera for my road trip. If I get pulled over it'll definitely be recording.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Maverick]
#7392681 - 09/10/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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A thought came to mind. when ever I get pulled over I ALWAYS have a polite legit. excuse to what I'm doing, and where I'm heading, even if it's made up, I make it polite and realistic as possible, then I ask if I've done anything wrong.
When I got pulled over by the cop who said I took the corner bad, then after claimed I was speeding, I told him simply "I feigned slightly to the left before turning right to cause shift the physical weight of the car to shift from one side of the car to the other in a better proportion than if I had just turned right, keeping my soda from tipping and my burger and fries from spilling everywhere" *as I pointed at my soda and my burger and fries, my cupholders suck balls*
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392686 - 09/10/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wasnt really responding to what you said, sorry for the quick reply, I was just merely making a statement.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7392788 - 09/10/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ideally, every traffic stop should be recorded on camera.
this cop should be fired and should never be allowed to be a police officer again.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7393117 - 09/10/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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runs to the patent office...
at the very least, keep an audio recorder in your car for these types of situations.
the police receive a lot of training, they just don't seem to be trained to handle a citizen who knows his rights and refuses to feel threatened.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: afoaf]
#7393441 - 09/10/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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looks like the story is spreading:
http://tinyurl.com/2npqnb
You can contact the St George Police to express your outrage at: St. George Police Police Chief - Scott Uhrig 9041 Southview Lane St. George 63123 314-631-1295 314-631-2252 fax
Apparently Sergeant Kenline is under indefinite administrative leave until court is adjourned for the case.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7393669 - 09/10/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: I wasnt really responding to what you said, sorry for the quick reply, I was just merely making a statement.
my bad.. ppl like I go on rants here and others tend to pick and choose statements we make because they're too lazy to read the whole thing.. which I regret.. is my fault. I shouldn't type so much.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Maverick]
#7394467 - 09/10/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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DRTMaverick said: A thought came to mind. when ever I get pulled over I ALWAYS have a polite legit. excuse to what I'm doing, and where I'm heading, even if it's made up, I make it polite and realistic as possible, then I ask if I've done anything wrong.
I think that's the most intelligent thing I have read so far. This has always been my approach with the pigs. Although I like the cactus up the ass idea too.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7394635 - 09/11/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: I hope it makes CNN.
maybe it would if it didnt have that shitty ass clicking sound throughout the video..
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: afoaf]
#7394742 - 09/11/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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afoaf said:
the police receive a lot of training, they just don't seem to be trained to handle a citizen who knows his rights and refuses to feel threatened.
i think they know exactly what they're doing
they cant stand the fact we 'lowlifes' have rights
remember hill street blues the show?
"lets do it to them before they do it to us' was their motto before each shift
nothings changed
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: shitfacedme]
#7395257 - 09/11/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Officer in trouble over motorist's video in South County By Patrick M. O'Connell and Georgina Gustin ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 09/11/2007
ST. GEORGE — A car-mounted video camera — more commonly used by police than against them — captured a loud and threatening confrontation in this tiny St. Louis County community that left an officer on suspension and the whole world able to listen in.
The picture doesn't show much, but the audio part of the recording, posted on Google Video and YouTube on the Internet, brought more than 300 protest calls to St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig.
"I was very displeased when I saw the actions on the video," Uhrig said. "My officers are not trained and taught to act like that."
He put Sgt. James Kuehnlein on unpaid suspension pending further investigation.
Uhrig said the officer's actions were not justified, and he insisted the episode is not representative of his department.
A voice identified as Kuehnlein's can be heard taunting the driver and threatening to jail him on fabricated charges.
The tape, made late last week, was from a camera running in the vehicle Kuehnlein approached, police said.
Brett Darrow, 20, of St. Louis, said he was the driver who recorded the exchange. He posted it online Saturday.
"I wanted everybody to see that this kind of stuff does happen," Darrow said. "I thought if I just go to the chief or whatever, it would just get swept under the rug."
Kuehnlein could not be reached for comment Monday night.
St. George, a municipality of about 1,300, sits along Interstate 55 at Reavis Barracks Road.
In the video, Kuehnlein, a St. George officer for about two years, approaches a young man who was sitting in a parked car about 2 a.m. in a commuter lot near Spokane and Reavis Barracks roads. Kuehnlein asks for identification. When Darrow asks whether he did anything wrong, the officer orders him out of the car and begins shouting.
"You want to try me? You want to try me tonight? You think you have a bad night? I will ruin your night. … Do you want to try me tonight, young boy?"
Darrow says no.
"Do you want to go to jail for some (expletive) reason I come up with?" the police officer says. Later, Darrow says, "I don't want any problems, officer."
"You're about to get it," Kuehnlein is heard saying. "You already started your (expletive) problems with your attitude."
After the officer notices the camera, he says, "I don't really care about your cameras, 'cause I'm about ready to tow your car, then we can tear 'em all apart."
After more than 10 minutes of interaction, Darrow is allowed to go.
Darrow said he was not trying to entrap the officer. He said he pulled into the commuter lot to meet a friend. When the officer asked him for identification, Darrow said he didn't immediately present it because he believes the officer stopped him without probable cause.
Darrow said he installed the cameras in his Nissan Maxima after past run-ins with police. He said he was involved in a physical confrontation in 2005 with an off-duty St. Louis police officer, in a case Darrow said was later dismissed.
Darrow said he plans to meet with Uhrig today to discuss the weekend incident.
Chief Uhrig said Kuehnlein stopped to talk to Darrow because police have received reports of thefts from cars in the area. But, Uhrig said, based on his viewing of the online video, the officer acted inappropriately when he threatened to make up charges, and used a disrespectful tone and inappropriate language.
"We don't do that," Uhrig said. "Someone either violated the law or they didn't. You don't say, I'll lock you up and then come up with why afterward."
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/EF3667C80165B68086257353001498DC?OpenDocument
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
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"captured a loud and threatening confrontation in this tiny St. Louis County community that left an officer on suspension and the whole world able to listen in. "
BOOYAW! There *IS* hope afterall!
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7399545 - 09/12/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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there have been new articles and coverage all over, and I'm sure the phone calls have only started.
Sometimes the internet can be used for stuff other than pr0n?! It's amazing.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7399593 - 09/12/07 06:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> Sometimes the internet can be used for stuff other than pr0n?! It's amazing.
What is really amazing is hopping on some of the other sites (in the St. Louis area) that are discussing this and watching the police post their interpretation of the events. The general consensus (among the police posting) is that:
1) good/nice cops don't last, get over it 2) the cop in the video did nothing wrong 3) the "kid" deserved to go jail for his attitude 4) the "kid" set the cop up (not true)
But the one that really got me... one cop claimed that posting this sort of thing on the internet was bad, and should be censored, because it would endanger other police. Apparently, if cops have to worry that they might be taped and posted to the internet, then they might not act with force when needed (or hesitate), and might get shot or killed.
There was also a few posts by the "kid" that was in the video. He said the reason for the camera in the car was because he got a speeding ticket once when he wasn't speeding. The judge took the cops word over his word and he got fined. If you look at the camera, it is pointed at his dash to record the speed that he is driving. If he were setting up the police, then he would have pointed the camera so that you could see the cop, rather than the dash.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7399643 - 09/12/07 06:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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those cops are disgraceful and imho theyre speaking for the majority of cops worldwide
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7399648 - 09/12/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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also why is it under investigation? the facts are thereon tape,no investigation needed
where i live the bastard would have been suspended WITH pay,it happens all the time
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7399827 - 09/12/07 08:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: What is really amazing is hopping on some of the other sites (in the St. Louis area) that are discussing this and watching the police post their interpretation of the events.
and therein lies the ROOT of this problem. Most people are sitting there saying "How did this particular, isolated incident affect me personally?" If they can't figure it out, they are apathetic, and then just latch onto the first response that makes sense.
There's really no use arguing with those types, it's the same crowd that things only police should have guns.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7399849 - 09/12/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I live just outside Washington DC. The DC news showed the same video tonight when they covered the story.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7399964 - 09/12/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Geezus! The soundtrack sounds like bad gay bondage porn, BOY!
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Diploid]
#7400108 - 09/12/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just saw this on CNN while waiting in line at the bank... looks like mainstream news finally picked it up. I almost feel sorry for the police chief that has to take all the calls... almost.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7401060 - 09/12/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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On which St. Louis message board can we watch the action?
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Disco Cat]
#7401102 - 09/12/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7401323 - 09/12/07 04:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is the main one I was reading... stltoday
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7401778 - 09/12/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7459746 - 09/27/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow.. update to this story! The police department is now staking out this kids house and harassing him:
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1988.asp
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This month, however, scandals within the Saint Louis Police Department which otherwise would have been a local story, gathered national attention and fueled additional resentment. Some $40,000 in cash turned up "missing" from the police evidence room on September 17. The city of St. George was forced to fire Sergeant James Kuehnlein for his threat to "come up with reasons" to "lock up" Darrow. An investigation into whether Kuehnlein's actions merit criminal charges is under way. Darrow met on Monday with a Saint Louis County Police Department detective.
"I quickly learned that this was about finding something I did wrong and not the officer," Darrow said.
Despite the official harassment, Darrow has been comforted by an unexpected level of support from the general public. Motorists who recognized him from various television interviews have stopped to thank him or give him the "thumbs up." A judge also dropped charges from the June traffic stop after a Saint Louis police officer failed to show up at a trial where Darrow had been prepared to defend himself with video evidence.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7459770 - 09/27/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> The city of St. George was forced to fire Sergeant James Kuehnlein for his threat to "come up with reasons" to "lock up" Darrow.
If you read the press release, the reason James Kuehnlein got fired was for failing to record the traffic stop. No mention at all about his behavior or his threat(s) to make up charges.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7459892 - 09/27/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is the kind of shit that used to happen to me EVERY DAY in college. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've been stopped and searched just for walking down the street at a late hour. Or driving home from class or work.
of course, I guess I looked like a 'suspicious character' because I had purple hair, a trenchcoat, and a spikey collar.
most police are decent people. If you're one of them. Step outside the norms of fashion and they will be all up in your shit though.
funny, now that I shaved my hair and wear business casual (for my job) police are real 'decent' to me. I bet if I'd never been a punk, I would have gone through my entire life not knowing how prejudiced and invasive the police can be, on a regular basis.
that same policeman that comes off as 'decent' to you may not come off the same way to someone with a bit darker skin or unconventional fashion.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: wps]
#7459993 - 09/27/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Purple hair and trenchcoat?! It's a wonder they didn't taser you!
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7460022 - 09/27/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: I just saw this on CNN while waiting in line at the bank... looks like mainstream news finally picked it up. I almost feel sorry for the police chief that has to take all the calls... almost.
There's no reason to feel sorry for the chief. He's a fuckup as well.
" The videotape from Kuehnlein's police cruiser is currently missing and the sergeant is currently on unpaid leave. St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig is also being investigated by city officials who say he may have failed to inform them that the State of Missouri Administrative Hearing Commission concluded that, "Uhrig's unwelcome sexual advances to a teenager, while on duty and under the guise of enforcing the laws, indicate an especially egregious mental state, show that he cannot enforce the law, and are cause for discipline.""
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/19/1967.asp
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7460460 - 09/27/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ugh man.. do i really have to look at your damn penis everytime you post?
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Diploid]
#7460509 - 09/27/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Purple hair and trenchcoat?! It's a wonder they didn't taser you!

ha-ha.
I mean, I don't mean to be too anti-police, but I really don't think this is an isolated incident. Shit like this happens all the time. If the police don't like you (and the likes of police are typically defined by incredibly narrow minds) then they will harass you.
I've had police threaten to take me to jail for nothing more than an expired inspection. Yes they have the right to do that, but would they do it to some white guy in a suit and tie? I'd guess not.
put on something wild or maybe some black skin, go out and expect to be harassed by the police. I don't know what it is about them being disrespectful to those outside the norm. I don't know if the stresses of the job turns people bad or if the job just attracts bad applicants.
But the police I've dealt with (which is quite a few) were all horribly prejudiced and jumped at the opportunity to take out whatever frustrations they had on some innocent guy that just happened to be a little outside the spectrum of 'normality'.
and I have noticed that they REALLY don't like it when you answer them with 'none of your business' when they ask you where you're going and who you're going to see and all that, like this gentlemen did. Where I come from, an answer like that is grounds for being slammed against the fence, handcuffed, searched, and detained for up to 30 minutes. Just because they can.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7460589 - 09/27/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: ugh man.. do i really have to look at your damn penis everytime you post?
heh.. just put the first shroomery member on ignore since i joined... and ironically, had nothing to do with posts.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7460781 - 09/27/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: ugh man.. do i really have to look at your damn penis everytime you post?

Thats actually not me, PM Loki for details.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7460814 - 09/27/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: ugh man.. do i really have to look at your damn penis everytime you post?
What's all the fuss about?
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
#7461951 - 09/27/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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matt said:
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BrAiN said: ugh man.. do i really have to look at your damn penis everytime you post?

Thats actually not me, PM Loki for details.
LOL! Not sure I want to!
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7468938 - 09/30/07 12:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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cops and marines are all sociopathic sick fucks, and quite frankly I hope that as the years progress more and more bits of "evidence" will continue to be questioned.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Crystal G]
#7469801 - 09/30/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That should have come with a "spew alert". I like you, Crystal, but the idea of you calling anybody a sick fuck is hilarious.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: zappaisgod]
#7470922 - 09/30/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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true, true...
now if my moral justice and the things I believe in were completely backwards, who knows, maybe I would have become one of those sick fuck cops hahaha (not really).
I dunno though. My friend in LA is a cop, he's chill as fuck. He even let us take pics of him in his uniform looking like he was beating the shit out of my other friend with his nightstick.
but then that friend got arrested, and his digital camera was on him when he was... well the cops then decided to search through it for possible criminal activity, and when they saw the pic of the "police brutality" they thought it was real and then they deleted it
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