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Maverick
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392665 - 09/10/07 04:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm gonna get a video camera for my road trip. If I get pulled over it'll definitely be recording.
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Maverick
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Maverick]
#7392681 - 09/10/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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A thought came to mind. when ever I get pulled over I ALWAYS have a polite legit. excuse to what I'm doing, and where I'm heading, even if it's made up, I make it polite and realistic as possible, then I ask if I've done anything wrong.
When I got pulled over by the cop who said I took the corner bad, then after claimed I was speeding, I told him simply "I feigned slightly to the left before turning right to cause shift the physical weight of the car to shift from one side of the car to the other in a better proportion than if I had just turned right, keeping my soda from tipping and my burger and fries from spilling everywhere" *as I pointed at my soda and my burger and fries, my cupholders suck balls*
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7392686 - 09/10/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wasnt really responding to what you said, sorry for the quick reply, I was just merely making a statement.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7392788 - 09/10/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ideally, every traffic stop should be recorded on camera.
this cop should be fired and should never be allowed to be a police officer again.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7393117 - 09/10/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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runs to the patent office...
at the very least, keep an audio recorder in your car for these types of situations.
the police receive a lot of training, they just don't seem to be trained to handle a citizen who knows his rights and refuses to feel threatened.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: afoaf]
#7393441 - 09/10/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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looks like the story is spreading:
http://tinyurl.com/2npqnb
You can contact the St George Police to express your outrage at: St. George Police Police Chief - Scott Uhrig 9041 Southview Lane St. George 63123 314-631-1295 314-631-2252 fax
Apparently Sergeant Kenline is under indefinite administrative leave until court is adjourned for the case.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#7393669 - 09/10/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The_Red_Crayon said: I wasnt really responding to what you said, sorry for the quick reply, I was just merely making a statement.
my bad.. ppl like I go on rants here and others tend to pick and choose statements we make because they're too lazy to read the whole thing.. which I regret.. is my fault. I shouldn't type so much.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Maverick]
#7394467 - 09/10/07 11:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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DRTMaverick said: A thought came to mind. when ever I get pulled over I ALWAYS have a polite legit. excuse to what I'm doing, and where I'm heading, even if it's made up, I make it polite and realistic as possible, then I ask if I've done anything wrong.
I think that's the most intelligent thing I have read so far. This has always been my approach with the pigs. Although I like the cactus up the ass idea too.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7394635 - 09/11/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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BrAiN said: I hope it makes CNN.
maybe it would if it didnt have that shitty ass clicking sound throughout the video..
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: afoaf]
#7394742 - 09/11/07 01:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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afoaf said:
the police receive a lot of training, they just don't seem to be trained to handle a citizen who knows his rights and refuses to feel threatened.
i think they know exactly what they're doing
they cant stand the fact we 'lowlifes' have rights
remember hill street blues the show?
"lets do it to them before they do it to us' was their motto before each shift
nothings changed
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: shitfacedme]
#7395257 - 09/11/07 06:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Officer in trouble over motorist's video in South County By Patrick M. O'Connell and Georgina Gustin ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH 09/11/2007
ST. GEORGE — A car-mounted video camera — more commonly used by police than against them — captured a loud and threatening confrontation in this tiny St. Louis County community that left an officer on suspension and the whole world able to listen in.
The picture doesn't show much, but the audio part of the recording, posted on Google Video and YouTube on the Internet, brought more than 300 protest calls to St. George Police Chief Scott Uhrig.
"I was very displeased when I saw the actions on the video," Uhrig said. "My officers are not trained and taught to act like that."
He put Sgt. James Kuehnlein on unpaid suspension pending further investigation.
Uhrig said the officer's actions were not justified, and he insisted the episode is not representative of his department.
A voice identified as Kuehnlein's can be heard taunting the driver and threatening to jail him on fabricated charges.
The tape, made late last week, was from a camera running in the vehicle Kuehnlein approached, police said.
Brett Darrow, 20, of St. Louis, said he was the driver who recorded the exchange. He posted it online Saturday.
"I wanted everybody to see that this kind of stuff does happen," Darrow said. "I thought if I just go to the chief or whatever, it would just get swept under the rug."
Kuehnlein could not be reached for comment Monday night.
St. George, a municipality of about 1,300, sits along Interstate 55 at Reavis Barracks Road.
In the video, Kuehnlein, a St. George officer for about two years, approaches a young man who was sitting in a parked car about 2 a.m. in a commuter lot near Spokane and Reavis Barracks roads. Kuehnlein asks for identification. When Darrow asks whether he did anything wrong, the officer orders him out of the car and begins shouting.
"You want to try me? You want to try me tonight? You think you have a bad night? I will ruin your night. … Do you want to try me tonight, young boy?"
Darrow says no.
"Do you want to go to jail for some (expletive) reason I come up with?" the police officer says. Later, Darrow says, "I don't want any problems, officer."
"You're about to get it," Kuehnlein is heard saying. "You already started your (expletive) problems with your attitude."
After the officer notices the camera, he says, "I don't really care about your cameras, 'cause I'm about ready to tow your car, then we can tear 'em all apart."
After more than 10 minutes of interaction, Darrow is allowed to go.
Darrow said he was not trying to entrap the officer. He said he pulled into the commuter lot to meet a friend. When the officer asked him for identification, Darrow said he didn't immediately present it because he believes the officer stopped him without probable cause.
Darrow said he installed the cameras in his Nissan Maxima after past run-ins with police. He said he was involved in a physical confrontation in 2005 with an off-duty St. Louis police officer, in a case Darrow said was later dismissed.
Darrow said he plans to meet with Uhrig today to discuss the weekend incident.
Chief Uhrig said Kuehnlein stopped to talk to Darrow because police have received reports of thefts from cars in the area. But, Uhrig said, based on his viewing of the online video, the officer acted inappropriately when he threatened to make up charges, and used a disrespectful tone and inappropriate language.
"We don't do that," Uhrig said. "Someone either violated the law or they didn't. You don't say, I'll lock you up and then come up with why afterward."
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/EF3667C80165B68086257353001498DC?OpenDocument
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7395413 - 09/11/07 07:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"captured a loud and threatening confrontation in this tiny St. Louis County community that left an officer on suspension and the whole world able to listen in. "
BOOYAW! There *IS* hope afterall!
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: BrAiN]
#7399545 - 09/12/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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there have been new articles and coverage all over, and I'm sure the phone calls have only started.
Sometimes the internet can be used for stuff other than pr0n?! It's amazing.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7399593 - 09/12/07 06:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> Sometimes the internet can be used for stuff other than pr0n?! It's amazing.
What is really amazing is hopping on some of the other sites (in the St. Louis area) that are discussing this and watching the police post their interpretation of the events. The general consensus (among the police posting) is that:
1) good/nice cops don't last, get over it 2) the cop in the video did nothing wrong 3) the "kid" deserved to go jail for his attitude 4) the "kid" set the cop up (not true)
But the one that really got me... one cop claimed that posting this sort of thing on the internet was bad, and should be censored, because it would endanger other police. Apparently, if cops have to worry that they might be taped and posted to the internet, then they might not act with force when needed (or hesitate), and might get shot or killed.
There was also a few posts by the "kid" that was in the video. He said the reason for the camera in the car was because he got a speeding ticket once when he wasn't speeding. The judge took the cops word over his word and he got fined. If you look at the camera, it is pointed at his dash to record the speed that he is driving. If he were setting up the police, then he would have pointed the camera so that you could see the cop, rather than the dash.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7399643 - 09/12/07 06:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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those cops are disgraceful and imho theyre speaking for the majority of cops worldwide
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7399648 - 09/12/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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also why is it under investigation? the facts are thereon tape,no investigation needed
where i live the bastard would have been suspended WITH pay,it happens all the time
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Seuss]
#7399827 - 09/12/07 08:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seuss said: What is really amazing is hopping on some of the other sites (in the St. Louis area) that are discussing this and watching the police post their interpretation of the events.
and therein lies the ROOT of this problem. Most people are sitting there saying "How did this particular, isolated incident affect me personally?" If they can't figure it out, they are apathetic, and then just latch onto the first response that makes sense.
There's really no use arguing with those types, it's the same crowd that things only police should have guns.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7399849 - 09/12/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I live just outside Washington DC. The DC news showed the same video tonight when they covered the story.
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: kotik]
#7399964 - 09/12/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Geezus! The soundtrack sounds like bad gay bondage porn, BOY!
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Re: Police Caught On Tape Threatening To Destroy And Invent Evidence [Re: Diploid]
#7400108 - 09/12/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just saw this on CNN while waiting in line at the bank... looks like mainstream news finally picked it up. I almost feel sorry for the police chief that has to take all the calls... almost.
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