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Choosing marijuana strain
    #7390070 - 09/09/07 10:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

today i obtained my mj liscens and the club (which is 2 min from my house) has many clones to choose from.. i really want to grow but the only space i have is about 4 1/2 feet in my closet... i know there are some plants that stay short and bushy. Does anyone know of any strains that are notorious for being short and bushy or is there a way to keep a strain from growing tall.?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7390089 - 09/09/07 10:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Anything indica will be shorter then sativa strains. Also plants can be trained by bending or pruning to be shorter, so with a little effort you can grow even the tallest weed short and bushy. An example would be Trainwreck or White Widow


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7390100 - 09/09/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thanks...yea i have never grown before so all the bending and stuff probably wont happen but i will def look around for an indica even tho i prefer sativa :rolleyes:...but for the sake of growing ill do what has to be done... i just need experience with growing marijuana in general


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7390104 - 09/09/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's wicked easy. Make sure you do lots of reading. icmag.com and hg420.com both kick mad ass.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7390109 - 09/09/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

cool man, thanks you are the shit...


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7390172 - 09/09/07 11:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well thank you, glad i could help


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7390259 - 09/09/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i would suggest using LST on a sativa u will enjoy rather that growing indica that you dont like as much


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: pong]
    #7390318 - 09/09/07 11:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

what is lst?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7390602 - 09/10/07 02:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

there is a strain called low ryder, one sec ill get u some pics, you could fit about 4 plants in the space youve got, and get 150g+ :shrug:
LST is Low Stress Training


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390620 - 09/10/07 02:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea man i have been reading for the last 2 hours on some cannabis forums about LST.. i hope the dispensary has lowryder clones available cuz it sounds like what i need. Thanks for the info.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390625 - 09/10/07 02:31 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you can flower this strain very early and still get big buds





or even



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i grew 2 of these in my front yard under a bush last season for fun, got like 12g off each


but if u let them get bigger like the top pic u can get 50g+ easy per plant


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390630 - 09/10/07 02:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wow...simply amazing! i really hope they have this strain! Is that big gulp all the volume needed for flowering?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390632 - 09/10/07 02:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

where u from i may be able to hook you up with some beans


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390636 - 09/10/07 02:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah those 5 gallon buckets are perfect size,


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390638 - 09/10/07 02:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7390644 - 09/10/07 02:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ahh damn, wrong country lol im in aus


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390650 - 09/10/07 02:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

haha its all good man..thanks tho your a cool dude. hopefully i can get a clone some how.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7390651 - 09/10/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea good luck, read this http://www.dope-seeds.com/lowryder.htm


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7390665 - 09/10/07 02:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thanks dude!


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7392153 - 09/10/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If you flower your clones as soon as they drop roots they won't get that tall. When I was helping my friend do his they never got above 20 inches when we did them that way. The only issue with the closet is getting fresh air in there and keeping heat down. I've been meaning to look into ELECTRONIC fluorescents. I saw a video a while back where this guy was growing them in boxes using these lights with very little electricity use and very low heat output.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: nugjug]
    #7392192 - 09/10/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: nugjug]
    #7394440 - 09/10/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thanks i might have to try that out!


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7394471 - 09/10/07 11:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

DO NOT...i repeat DO NOT grow any low ryder strain. unless you dont want to yield much and want your plants to flower whenever they feel like it. also it is easy to get away with sending seeds from aus to usa.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: S4mm1ch]
    #7394500 - 09/10/07 11:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea i did some research on lowryder on a cannabis forum and it had all shitty review.. seems like something fun to grow tho if i had a green house or something to fuck around with. i have access to clones so ill just have to see whats up for grabs


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7394729 - 09/11/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ive grown lowryder, only small plants, flowered early and smoke was good. but if your looking for high yields... i buy all my seeds from www.planetskunk.com shipped from South Australia good site :p also good forums if you need any help with your grow theres alot of experienced growers there to help you out.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7394866 - 09/11/07 02:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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ive grown lowryder, only small plants, flowered early and smoke was good. but if your looking for high yields... i buy all my seeds from www.planetskunk.com shipped from South Australia good site :p also good forums if you need any help with your grow theres alot of experienced growers there to help you out.




Yea planetskunk is pretty good, dubman there has a nice lst guide.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7398791 - 09/11/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i have never grown before and lst ing seems fairly simple...or at least a simple concept... i think i may do it to my plants regardless of the space i have to grow! doesnt it yield more that way...since you have more surface reaching towards the light?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7398860 - 09/11/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah listen to psilobuds

i grew a Lowryder hybrid (AK-47 X Master Kush X Valley Queen X LR) and my yields weren't that bad
and the potency was amazing

we live pretty close
but i'm all out of seeds
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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399011 - 09/11/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Can you order seeds online or is that a big no no in the US?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7399014 - 09/11/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

seedbay.com


OR


seedbotique.com


and with every buy
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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399059 - 09/12/07 12:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Knifey Mcstab]
    #7399075 - 09/12/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh sorry
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https://www.seedboutique.com/


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399084 - 09/12/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

They really bust heads on seed prices imo...


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399101 - 09/12/07 12:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no
go to seedboutique's nirvana seeds section

it's all $15 for a 10 pack + the freebie 5 pack

and all those strains are pretty good and easy to grow


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399105 - 09/12/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

actually scratch that

they cranked up the price to 25 now

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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399110 - 09/12/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

is it cool to ship to the US??


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399112 - 09/12/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sorry for the triple post
but uh

you can sometimes find good deals on seedbay

i once found a 10 pack of Mandala Seeds' Speed Queen
for only 15

and it also came with a freebie pack


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399115 - 09/12/07 12:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea man on seedbay it was like 170 for 10 sour diesal seeds. 15-20 aint bad.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399118 - 09/12/07 12:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah they ship discreetly


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399163 - 09/12/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

nice...i might have to give it a shot..any other dwarfs u know of besides lowryder?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399168 - 09/12/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Theres a few lowryder hybrids, i cant think of any right now.

Ruderalis Skunk is one.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399175 - 09/12/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well
there's this method that has been experimented with for growers who don't have that much grow space

the point of this method is to use a 12/12 light regime from start to finish

so right when the seedlings pop out of the dirt
it's 12/12 light until harvest time

i have tried this method
you can use it with almost all strains

the benefit is that the plants grow shorter
and the bud just grows on one big fat cola

here's the link for more details
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    #7399183 - 09/12/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

and if it says a seed is feminized does that guarentee a female?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399188 - 09/12/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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well
there's this method that has been experimented with for growers who don't have that much grow space

the point of this method is to use a 12/12 light regime from start to finish

so right when the seedlings pop out of the dirt
it's 12/12 light until harvest time

i have tried this method
you can use it with almost all strains

the benefit is that the plants grow shorter
and the bud just grows on one big fat cola

here's the link for more details
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Zandra on planetskunk told me it would be worth the extra couple weeks to go ahead and veg it for a lil while for larger yields. Or to keep it small she recommended atleast veg it 3 sets of leaves before 12/12.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399195 - 09/12/07 12:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes


but the thing is with LR hybrids
is the potency problem

a lot of growers have said that many of the hybrids have low potency due to the Cannabis Ruderalis genetics


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399200 - 09/12/07 12:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

90% chance i think it is, might be 80% chance


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399202 - 09/12/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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but the thing is with LR hybrids
is the potency problem

a lot of growers have said that many of the hybrids have low potency due to the Cannabis Ruderalis genetics




The ruderalis skunk is supposed to have potency close to skunk with the autoflower from ruderalis.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399205 - 09/12/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm
i'll definitely give that a shot

but i usually grow it
harvest
then put the plant back on a 24/0 light regime
which sets the plant right back into flowering again
so i can get multiple harvests with the same plant!

and the bud from then 2nd or 3rd harvests are just as potent!

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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399215 - 09/12/07 12:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Ruderalis Indica was bred to be a psychoactive hybrid with features inherited mainly from C.Ruderalis – broad, tough, bushy plants with the full auto-flowering ability – and a much higher THC content than the wild strain. The Ruderalis Skunk breeding program achieved almost the reverse – a Skunk hybrid that retains the potency, yield and vigour of its exceptional family line, inheriting only the unique flowering trait of the land-race.




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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399216 - 09/12/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wow i really like the sound of that

which vendors sell it?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399220 - 09/12/07 12:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

planetskunk

and..
heres what lz had to say about 12/12 from germination.
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you can-- it will be quite small-- BUT-- will grow until chenically able to bloom---
I'd let it get to at least the 3-set of leaves stae and get her 1st nutes before going 12/12--- give her a healthy start.

Hard to say how long it would take in total, as each stain and even each phenome grows at different rates... they will just grow until sexually mature-- But be SURE they have a LOT of light-- or they'll be stretched!




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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399226 - 09/12/07 12:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm i like that idea of the 12/12 all the way through...sounds more fool proof than lst ing too. I have never grown before so im not too worried about the yield as much as the experience.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399233 - 09/12/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

try and just use some left over bagseed first
if you're looking for experience


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399235 - 09/12/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Dubmans lst guide is pretty foolproof, I had a nice lsted plant going this year until it got hit with round up.

http://www.marijuanagrowing.eu/cannabis2335.html

pretty simple, I used shoe strings.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399246 - 09/12/07 12:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i plan on growing 2 plants so ill try one with each method... for the 12/12 method will the amount of nutrients or type of soild differ?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399251 - 09/12/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no
try going to a local garden center
look for potting soil that is all organic
the kind that has like worm casings, bat guano, etc.

that's if you're lazy and don't really want to waste energy to use nutrient solutions


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399258 - 09/12/07 01:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea i dont know much about nutrients at all in general.. i still need to read up on that cuz i know if you give them too much too soon or something it gives them little burns or something


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399261 - 09/12/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If your gonna lst throw it under 24/0 light for veg.

Heres another reply to my thread over there

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The Dutch Method

16 plants grown on 12/12 from seed, 1sq metre yielded over 12 OZ's in 9.5 weeks start to finish.

Recently been shown some stuff on a new Dutch 'intensive' method...4" pots (yes 4" pots), grown on 12/12 from seeds, sexed at 16/18 days and grown onto yield an average of 22 grams per plant on one single cola! All side growth is eliminated so you get a single cola of 50 - 70cm average. The real beauty is that they stay in 4" pots but you make them deeper, so in a SQ metre of space where you might normally get 4 plants or so you get 16 plants and in the test I saw that sq metre yilded over 12 oz from from those 16 plants in just 9 weeks. This is real food for thought. In my experience if I grow 4 'biggish' plants in that SQ metre I might produce an average of 1.5 oz per plant or 6 oz's per sq metre and that in 14 weeks with 5 weeks vegging from seed.The potential is to effectively DOUBLE the yield in the same space AND cut the cycle down to under 10 weeks.




Now this is something im definatly going to do sometime.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399282 - 09/12/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so does that mean no transfering all the way through?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399289 - 09/12/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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PoppyRider said:
so does that mean no transfering all the way through?




Im guessing your referring to when i said 24/0 light, for vegging you want your plants to get all the light they can get.. When they are ready to flower you take them over to 12/12 (they normally bud when they get more darkness, unless they are an auto flower strain like lowryder).


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399356 - 09/12/07 02:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sorry i meant from the dutch method, and what are main indications to look for when transfering


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7400064 - 09/12/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

transfering what?


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    #7401038 - 09/12/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

transfering the plant to a knew pot with new soil..sorry i should have been more specific.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7401118 - 09/12/07 03:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh ok i see what your saying now, why would you want to transplant? that would only cause stress, Maybe your thinking that because of the small pots? I think the small pots are for two reasons. One it will keep the root system smaller which should maintain the plant at a smaller size. And two because you can fit alot more plants in a smaller area increasing the total yield.

I haven't tried that method and Ive only grew a couple plants before. I'm not really experienced in this field, but I'm learning just like you :thumbup:


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    #7401524 - 09/12/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

cool im glad we are in the same boat! the smaller container does make sense... i may have to go for 4 plants instead of two now since i will be using smaller pots.  Damn i learn something new every time i get on this site:stoned:


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    #7401532 - 09/12/07 05:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hm you will have to water more often tho... :freakybirdthing:


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7401605 - 09/12/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

smaller pots = root bound = other problems, small yield, slow growth etc... but a root bound plant will veg, flower and stay small..


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    #7401607 - 09/12/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

what are the dimensions of your grow area?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7401625 - 09/12/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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smaller pots = root bound = other problems, small yield, slow growth etc... but a root bound plant will veg, flower and stay small..




Yea but did you read that post... it isnt how much you yield per plant.. but instead fitting more plants into a smaller area to increase total yield.


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    #7401636 - 09/12/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

umm about 3x3, the length is about 3.4feet


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