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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399168 - 09/12/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Theres a few lowryder hybrids, i cant think of any right now.

Ruderalis Skunk is one.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399175 - 09/12/07 12:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well
there's this method that has been experimented with for growers who don't have that much grow space

the point of this method is to use a 12/12 light regime from start to finish

so right when the seedlings pop out of the dirt
it's 12/12 light until harvest time

i have tried this method
you can use it with almost all strains

the benefit is that the plants grow shorter
and the bud just grows on one big fat cola

here's the link for more details
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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399183 - 09/12/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

and if it says a seed is feminized does that guarentee a female?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399188 - 09/12/07 12:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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meatcakeman said:
well
there's this method that has been experimented with for growers who don't have that much grow space

the point of this method is to use a 12/12 light regime from start to finish

so right when the seedlings pop out of the dirt
it's 12/12 light until harvest time

i have tried this method
you can use it with almost all strains

the benefit is that the plants grow shorter
and the bud just grows on one big fat cola

here's the link for more details
here




Zandra on planetskunk told me it would be worth the extra couple weeks to go ahead and veg it for a lil while for larger yields. Or to keep it small she recommended atleast veg it 3 sets of leaves before 12/12.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399195 - 09/12/07 12:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes


but the thing is with LR hybrids
is the potency problem

a lot of growers have said that many of the hybrids have low potency due to the Cannabis Ruderalis genetics


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399200 - 09/12/07 12:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

90% chance i think it is, might be 80% chance


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399202 - 09/12/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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meatcakeman said:
yes


but the thing is with LR hybrids
is the potency problem

a lot of growers have said that many of the hybrids have low potency due to the Cannabis Ruderalis genetics




The ruderalis skunk is supposed to have potency close to skunk with the autoflower from ruderalis.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399205 - 09/12/07 12:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm
i'll definitely give that a shot

but i usually grow it
harvest
then put the plant back on a 24/0 light regime
which sets the plant right back into flowering again
so i can get multiple harvests with the same plant!

and the bud from then 2nd or 3rd harvests are just as potent!

i learned this trick from a user from icmag


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399215 - 09/12/07 12:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Ruderalis Indica was bred to be a psychoactive hybrid with features inherited mainly from C.Ruderalis – broad, tough, bushy plants with the full auto-flowering ability – and a much higher THC content than the wild strain. The Ruderalis Skunk breeding program achieved almost the reverse – a Skunk hybrid that retains the potency, yield and vigour of its exceptional family line, inheriting only the unique flowering trait of the land-race.




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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399216 - 09/12/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wow i really like the sound of that

which vendors sell it?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399220 - 09/12/07 12:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

planetskunk

and..
heres what lz had to say about 12/12 from germination.
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you can-- it will be quite small-- BUT-- will grow until chenically able to bloom---
I'd let it get to at least the 3-set of leaves stae and get her 1st nutes before going 12/12--- give her a healthy start.

Hard to say how long it would take in total, as each stain and even each phenome grows at different rates... they will just grow until sexually mature-- But be SURE they have a LOT of light-- or they'll be stretched!




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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399226 - 09/12/07 12:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm i like that idea of the 12/12 all the way through...sounds more fool proof than lst ing too. I have never grown before so im not too worried about the yield as much as the experience.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399233 - 09/12/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

try and just use some left over bagseed first
if you're looking for experience


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399235 - 09/12/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Dubmans lst guide is pretty foolproof, I had a nice lsted plant going this year until it got hit with round up.

http://www.marijuanagrowing.eu/cannabis2335.html

pretty simple, I used shoe strings.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399246 - 09/12/07 12:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i plan on growing 2 plants so ill try one with each method... for the 12/12 method will the amount of nutrients or type of soild differ?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399251 - 09/12/07 01:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no
try going to a local garden center
look for potting soil that is all organic
the kind that has like worm casings, bat guano, etc.

that's if you're lazy and don't really want to waste energy to use nutrient solutions


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: meatcakeman]
    #7399258 - 09/12/07 01:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea i dont know much about nutrients at all in general.. i still need to read up on that cuz i know if you give them too much too soon or something it gives them little burns or something


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399261 - 09/12/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If your gonna lst throw it under 24/0 light for veg.

Heres another reply to my thread over there

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The Dutch Method

16 plants grown on 12/12 from seed, 1sq metre yielded over 12 OZ's in 9.5 weeks start to finish.

Recently been shown some stuff on a new Dutch 'intensive' method...4" pots (yes 4" pots), grown on 12/12 from seeds, sexed at 16/18 days and grown onto yield an average of 22 grams per plant on one single cola! All side growth is eliminated so you get a single cola of 50 - 70cm average. The real beauty is that they stay in 4" pots but you make them deeper, so in a SQ metre of space where you might normally get 4 plants or so you get 16 plants and in the test I saw that sq metre yilded over 12 oz from from those 16 plants in just 9 weeks. This is real food for thought. In my experience if I grow 4 'biggish' plants in that SQ metre I might produce an average of 1.5 oz per plant or 6 oz's per sq metre and that in 14 weeks with 5 weeks vegging from seed.The potential is to effectively DOUBLE the yield in the same space AND cut the cycle down to under 10 weeks.




Now this is something im definatly going to do sometime.


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: sublimistri]
    #7399282 - 09/12/07 01:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so does that mean no transfering all the way through?


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Re: Choosing marijuana strain [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7399289 - 09/12/07 01:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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so does that mean no transfering all the way through?




Im guessing your referring to when i said 24/0 light, for vegging you want your plants to get all the light they can get.. When they are ready to flower you take them over to 12/12 (they normally bud when they get more darkness, unless they are an auto flower strain like lowryder).


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