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Veritas

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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392726 - 09/10/07 04:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually, there are several logical reasons why humans have to die, you are just unaware of those reasons.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7392733 - 09/10/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: And is there a logical reason for mice to die?  What's the difference?
Why do you think Vulcans live much longer than humans? LOGIC, baby!
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7392735 - 09/10/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Being familiar with the title and author does not constitute an understanding of the contents.
I've read them. What do you want to know?
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: Veritas]
#7392737 - 09/10/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Veritas said: Actually, there are several logical reasons why humans have to die, you are just unaware of those reasons.
Please enlighten me.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392742 - 09/10/07 05:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll let Dr. Universe do it for me:
Why do we die?
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7392748 - 09/10/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: And is there a logical reason for mice to die?  What's the difference?
Why do you think Vulcans live much longer than humans? LOGIC, baby!
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: Veritas]
#7392750 - 09/10/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually, there are several logical reasons why humans have to die...
The #1 reason some humans have to die is because of pissing Shmoopy off!
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: Veritas]
#7392757 - 09/10/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Veritas said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Being familiar with the title and author does not constitute an understanding of the contents.
I've read them. What do you want to know?
Why you wasted your time?
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392760 - 09/10/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't believe in getting my answers from a website on the internet called "Dr. Universe". If I believe that we can live forever, and you believe it, we will bring it closer to reality. Why defend a negative belief, let's strive for something better and support each other.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392780 - 09/10/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: A mouse dies because it basically runs into death, it doesn't balance itself. There is no logical reason why humans have to die.
Really, where do you get this nonsense? Does it just come to you?
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392790 - 09/10/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why defend a negative belief,
Death is not a negative belief. You are exhibiting death anxiety by denying death and dealing with it in a fear based way IMO.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: Icelander]
#7392791 - 09/10/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you never seen a rodent with its neck snapped by a mousetrap? That is called 'running into death'.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7392796 - 09/10/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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He was not balanced.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392797 - 09/10/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: I don't believe in getting my answers from a website on the internet called "Dr. Universe". If I believe that we can live forever, and you believe it, we will bring it closer to reality. Why defend a negative belief, let's strive for something better and support each other.
Sorry, I won't bother you with the facts again.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392809 - 09/10/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Facts are possibilities. To state a fact is to declare a possibility as the truth. There is a 99.999% chance we will die because so many of us believe in death that it manifests itself everywhere in our physical world. We cause everything that happens in this Universe, I apologize if this is hard to digest.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: Veritas]
#7392810 - 09/10/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are f-i-n-a-l-l-y getting with The Program. How many years has it taken you?
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392816 - 09/10/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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EternalCowabunga said: Facts are possibilities. To state a fact is to declare a possibility as the truth. There is a 99.999% chance we will die because so many of us believe in death that it manifests itself everywhere in our physical world. We cause everything that happens in this Universe, I apologize if this is hard to digest.
You bet bullshit is hard to digest. That's why the bull shit it out. It was worthless.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392823 - 09/10/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bullshit is worthless, from your point of view then? What does this have to do with my post?
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392836 - 09/10/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your post is total Bullshit IMO. Not one bit of substantiating evidence for it. It's not easy to debate someone who doesn't feel the need to present evidence for their statements but instead creates them out of whole cloth.
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Re: Ontological Insecurity or Sharing Wisdom [Re: EternalCowabunga]
#7392861 - 09/10/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am sorry you see things that way. In science, many things are hypothesized or seen as highly probable before they are ever tested in the lab. It is not widely accepted, but it is nonetheless valid, to be able to create something and then prove it again later. This is what is great about science - the ability to prove something over and over again.
If something is never seen as a possibility it will never be seen to manifest itself in reality.
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