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trays vs. "big cakes"
    #7388510 - 09/09/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've been searching around and I can't find the information that I am looking for. I like the way HippieChick takes the substrate out of her trays and fruits them; she says that the added fruiting area on the sides really helps out. I'm wondering though if you would get the same yield from only using the top of the substrate(trays) as the mushrooms can draw nutrients from anywhere in the substrate. The other thing I was wondering about is that while HippieChick has amazing b.e. it appears that many of the photos of these "big cakes" have uneven pin set unlike the really nice trays that you see around on the message boards. I'm wondering if this is because she does her substrate uncased or if it is because I just haven't seen enough of her pictures. If anyone could give me a little information on this it would be greatly appreciated. To clarify this is in no way a knock on HippieChick I'm just trying to get more information and hopefully some results similar to hers.


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: psilopod]
    #7388744 - 09/09/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have done a few of those just for the hell of it



I didn't get a kick ass pinset at all and they have higher moisture demands,they should be covered with a piece of wax paper after misting because with no casing layer to provide a micro climate you never know where the pins are going to pop up

They are essentially "Big Cakes" and need to be treated as such as far as their humidity demands go.I am pretty sure she runs both a cool mist and an ultrasonic and I only use a cool mist so I was needing to keep them practically drenched my misting

One more thing is be patient,aside from in vitro growing I have never seen anything take so long,in my pics are the"Big Cakes" on the top shelf showing their 1st flush while the ones on the lower shelf(With a casing layer) are on their third


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: Blutjager]
    #7389602 - 09/09/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Do you feel that the pinset took so long because you did not have the extremely humid environment? I'm trying to decide whether I want to do the cased trays or if I want to try the "big cake" idea. I would like to get my b.e. up there so I figured I'd follow HippieChick a little to see what she was doing. The only thing that I'm thinking though is that if it does take a lot longer to fruit out would I just be better off doing the casings and putting in fresh trays. The b.e. wouldn't be as high but the overall yield would be higher. I believe I heard HippieChick and Roadkill debate this the one day as they discussed optimum/feasible number of flushes. Roadkill said to do only 2-3 flushes, while HippieChick was saying that if she had done that she would have thrown away a major portion of her yield(after getting 5 or 6 flushes). I'm still kind of undecided. I'm thinking I'm going to do a mix w/ real high humidity. I'm not sure though.


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: psilopod]
    #7390146 - 09/09/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The higher humidity you have the better for the "Big cake method"

I like trays of grain spawned to coir and cased :rockon:


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: Blutjager]
    #7396263 - 09/11/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've decided that I'm gonna go with the trays instead of the "big cakes". After looking at things for a while it just seems to make sense to put as much as I can into the space(tray against tray) and just have really high fae. My next task is to figure out how I'm gonna go about pasteurizing 100-120 lbs of shit, lol. I know how to do it, I just wish there was an easier way, lol. I was thinking about using a similar method to Akira's steam pasteurization tek but then I'm thinking that I have to buy more stuff and considering I still have to soak all the h-poo anyway I might as well just do the pasteurization this way as well. I know that doing this can leach out some of the poo's nutrients so I think I'm gonna add a bunch of coffee to the water so the nutrients are not depleted quite so much. A big freezer would be a nice way to go, but I don't have that luxury as of right now, looks like I'm sticking with the poo-soup, lol.


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: psilopod]
    #7396423 - 09/11/07 01:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:dielaughing:stop showing off blut! :lol: looks good:grin:


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: psilopod]
    #7396444 - 09/11/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

search for cooler pasteurization, basically, heat enough water to cover substrate to about 180F and add it to the cooler with the poo, close it up and check temps in about an hour to make sure the temp is where it should be. Drain the water and use it to either hydrate some grains or as a tea for your plants. no waste. Very easy also


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Re: trays vs. "big cakes" [Re: j_db69]
    #7400219 - 09/12/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've seen the cooler pasteurization teks. I'm prolly just gonna use a metal trash can and a turkey fryer to heat up a bunch of water and then dump the water into the individual containers. If I can find styrofoam coolers I'll use those other wise I'll just use the five gallon buckets that I already have and cover them with blankets. I figure the coffee will probably give the poo a little kick as well. I've heard alot of good reports of it being used on grain, so I figured, what could it hurt, especially since this technique is suppost to remove some of the nutrients.


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