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lysergicide
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Marijuana & opiates
#7387069 - 09/09/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i've noticed that whenever i smoke on opiates, i get hit harder with a more intense buzz, but i also experience a strong sense of paranoia and i panic because i feel like my heart or breathing is slowing down.
is this a chemical synergy? or just my imagination?
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TheBulb2005
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: lysergicide]
#7387961 - 09/09/07 12:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The only marijuana+opiate combo I've done has been with oxycontin, and I got severely dizzy and sick from it. I would imagine that in your case, the marijuana is simply making you aware of your already slowed down breathing and heart rate, and thus you feel panic. I can feel this panic on opiates alone if I concentrate on my pulse/breathing patterns. Just tell yourself you took a safe amount of opiates (if you did haha), and that the weed is just making you aware of the normal side effects. Your heart isn't going to stop, you aren't going to stop breathing.
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: TheBulb2005]
#7387973 - 09/09/07 12:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have combined all kinds of opiates with all kinds of marijuana. IME, it's usually good deal, but I have to be careful to only smoke a small amount, or I will get sick. Actually, I nearly ALWAYS get sick when I smoke on opiates. Get real nauseous and end up puking, but after the little puke it's all gone and I feel rrrrreally good. I've come to accept it as part of the experience of mixing opiates and beh.
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: lysergicide]
#7387977 - 09/09/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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weed on opes is k3y(from the 2 times I've tried)
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: Nalim]
#7388501 - 09/09/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've tried marijuana with oxycodone and codeine before and found it very calm and relaxing.
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: Soundform]
#7388581 - 09/09/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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percocets + weed = good
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: Ransford]
#7388622 - 09/09/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I used to take a few Lortabs and then smoke... I got sick only once when I took 7 Lortabs (stupid) and smoked. I prolly would have gotten sick even if I didn't smoke, though.
My friend and I used to throw a Lortab into a grinder with some herb and the weed would be all coated in the pills, then we would smoke it. Definitely not something I'm exactly proud of, haha, and I realize it was dumb, but it sure worked well!
No more pharms for me... all natural 'cept for LSD of course!
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: boxcarguy07]
#7388708 - 09/09/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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boxcarguy07 said: No more pharms for me... all natural 'cept for LSD of course!
I dont really get this all natural thing, whats not natural about a chemical. Just because most pharms were first used in the 1900s doesn't make them less natural. I just don't understand sorry, please explain, as I see it everything is natural(noone invented aything, they just figured out how to make it stable or whatever).
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: Ransford]
#7388805 - 09/09/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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For instance, things like xanax or hydrocodone... it's true that everything originally comes from nature, but these things have been manufactured by humans in a lab. These "unnatural" substances tend to be less safe, have much more side effects, and are usually more addictive.
Example: Kanna, a plant containing mesembrine, a natural SSRI, is quite safer than taking a commonly prescribed SSRI.
That is not to say that just because something is natural means its safe (look at poison ivy) or that just because something is unnatural means its unsafe. It's just that that seems to be the trend. And when it comes to things I put in my body, it's just a lifestyle choice I have made to leave things the way nature has intended.
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: boxcarguy07]
#7388888 - 09/09/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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boxcarguy07 said: For instance, things like xanax or hydrocodone... it's true that everything originally comes from nature, but these things have been manufactured by humans in a lab. These "unnatural" substances tend to be less safe, have much more side effects, and are usually more addictive.
Example: Kanna, a plant containing mesembrine, a natural SSRI, is quite safer than taking a commonly prescribed SSRI.
That is not to say that just because something is natural means its safe (look at poison ivy) or that just because something is unnatural means its unsafe. It's just that that seems to be the trend. And when it comes to things I put in my body, it's just a lifestyle choice I have made to leave things the way nature has intended.
Ok i understand it more know, but i still evaluate every chemical on its own, just because you cannot follow yoru rules to the exact. Datura is natural but very very bad in most experiences.
YOu seem to understand why i don't understand though!
So is herion natural? but opiate poppise are? what about opium tar releases from a stressed pod?
Edited by Ransford (09/09/07 05:09 PM)
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: Ransford]
#7388906 - 09/09/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i dont like taking my opiates without having some weed set aside for when they kick in...
weed is absolutely essential for opiates...they mix well for sure!
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: boxcarguy07]
#7388923 - 09/09/07 05:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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boxcarguy07 said: For instance, things like xanax or hydrocodone... it's true that everything originally comes from nature, but these things have been manufactured by humans in a lab. These "unnatural" substances tend to be less safe, have much more side effects, and are usually more addictive.
Example: Kanna, a plant containing mesembrine, a natural SSRI, is quite safer than taking a commonly prescribed SSRI.
That is not to say that just because something is natural means its safe (look at poison ivy) or that just because something is unnatural means its unsafe. It's just that that seems to be the trend. And when it comes to things I put in my body, it's just a lifestyle choice I have made to leave things the way nature has intended.
That doesn't make any sense. A chemical is a chemical. It doesn't change just because it was lab made. Mescaline Carbonate is Mescaline Carbonate, regardless of wether or not it's been synthed in a lab or found in a cactus.
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Re: Marijuana & opiates [Re: Sunny]
#7389798 - 09/09/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Right, like I said, there are some exceptions. But there are certainly plenty of compounds that are made from things in nature, but are not found in nature themselves, like many prescription meds and food additives.
As far as compounds existing in nature that are made in the lab, that's a bit different. Like I said, just because it's manmade doesn't make it bad. ... However, it has been shown that natural vitamins and vitamins manufactured in a lab, while they have identical chemical makeup, are different in the way light passes through them. It's debatable how much of a difference this makes in terms of human consumption, but it is a definite difference!
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