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Seperating Ergine and Isoergine from HBWR seeds with Chromatography for no vasoconstriction?
    #7386153 - 09/08/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hi, I am wondering if extracted Ergine and Isoergine from HBWR seeds would be psychoactive. I have been reading, that supposedly, synthetic Ergine and Isoergine aren't very hallucinogenic so maybe this wouldn't work.
Ergometrine is the alkaloid in the seeds that causes vasoconstriction, isn't psychoactive, and is heavier than Ergine and Isoergine, so it would be relatively easy to leave out when doing column chromatography.
If anyone is wondering what chromatography is, it is a method of seperating compounds by weight. A column is filled with silica gel and a solvent, and the silica gel acts as a sieve, letting the smaller molecules pass down first and trapping the bigger ones at the top. Check wikipedia for more info. Especially take a look at the 3 external links at the bottom of the page.
Lastly, if I could do HBWR with no vasoconstriction at all, I would be doing it much more often. How about everyone else here?
Here are some links for reference if anyone wants more information:
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Re: Seperating Ergine and Isoergine from HBWR seeds with Chromatography for no vasoconstriction? [Re: zeug]
    #7386311 - 09/09/07 12:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ergine isnt so great by itself anyway. Read LA-111
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/tihkal/tihkal26.shtml


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Re: Seperating Ergine and Isoergine from HBWR seeds with Chromatography for no vasoconstriction? [Re: Moo456]
    #7389868 - 09/09/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I once thought that there was probably just one good chemical and another would cause the bad mental effects, but after reading a little bit i can understand why it does what it does. LSA is both an agonist and antagonist to the 5-ht receptor (like LSD). Unlike LSD though the sedation a lot of times overpowers the stimulation.

To get rid of all the bad effects i take a tiny amount of DXM before hand. DXM is a SSRI and an DARI and of course a badass pain killer. So it kind of takes care of everything.


Edited by Moo456 (09/09/07 10:32 PM)


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