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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7384778 - 09/08/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We should probably discuss these matters in PM's.  :tinfoil:


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7384781 - 09/08/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
I want us all to succeed. I'm trying you get your attention. Not to me and what I'm saying but to your response and internal reaction to what I am saying.




Well, if this is true, then that's pretty noble of you. But, I have to question if trying to get people to react is the best way to bring their attention to their reactions and their mental processes. In some situations, no doubt it is, but I doubt that's the case for all situations.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: adrug]
    #7384787 - 09/08/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think the operational mode is: "We are entitled to our nurosies."


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: dblaney]
    #7384833 - 09/08/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

but I doubt that's the case for all situations.


I don't do it in all situations. Ever notice that?;)


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Veritas]
    #7384837 - 09/08/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Veritas said:
We should probably discuss these matters in PM's.  :tinfoil:




OK PM: me.;):lol:


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7384914 - 09/08/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
but I doubt that's the case for all situations.


I don't do it in all situations. Ever notice that?;)




Actually, the thought didn't even arise until you mentioned it. But you're right, you don't.

I guess my post was more of a general reply, directed towards that approach, not to you specifically.


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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: dblaney]
    #7384921 - 09/08/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well OK then.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7385734 - 09/08/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You push buttons because you enjoy doing it. Don't use too many noble rationalizations for it. It can be a useful tool, but your enjoyment of that process is your primary driving factor. You have pushed my buttons so much over the last year that many of them just quit working.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7386652 - 09/09/07 03:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Some push others buttons only for their own self affirmation.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7386858 - 09/09/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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No joke, I was warned yesterday for quoting a fact and using logic in MRP. One more rational post and I am OUT!




You were warned for being a jerk about it.

Facts and logic are welcome in the Mysticism Forum, sarcasm and personal attacks are not. We are sensitives. :nicekitty: 

adrug I tried giving you a 24 hour forum ban, but the Ban-O-Matic wouldn't let me.
I lifted your ban 10 minutes later, I'm a nice guy, really...

Yes, I was abducted by aliens when I was a kid and have the implant to prove it. Wanna fight about it? :box:


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Middleman]
    #7387057 - 09/09/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry, I don't want to fight about it, I just don't believe you. :shrug:


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: adrug]
    #7387202 - 09/09/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't believe you either, I believe me.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7387574 - 09/09/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Because I want to let you in on a little secret that I believe to be true.

Actually I'm not selfish. I want us all to succeed. I'm trying you get your attention. Not to me and what I'm saying but to your response and internal reaction to what I am saying.

I'll bet even this post will push buttons.




this is a good topic....but sadly one that can't be fully explored due to the rules of this forum. we can't discuss the personal nature of the posters.....only the ideas.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: TameMe]
    #7387590 - 09/09/07 10:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You are free to discuss the concept of button-pushing & whether it can be beneficial.  Separate the idea from the poster & there is plenty of room for discussion.  :thumbup:

What do you think?  In general, do people in your life who push your buttons teach you anything?  Are they just annoying, or have you learned about yourself from your reactions to their behavior?


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Veritas]
    #7387633 - 09/09/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i don't know if i could credit the button-pushers for teaching me anything. i guess they could help show something about myself that i didn't already know.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: TameMe]
    #7387648 - 09/09/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Some button-pushers are not conscious of their pushing, and are just "doing their thing" in proximity to you. Others might be testing you, or trying to teach you.

Does it matter what their intentions are, if you can derive the same lessons either way?

For example, I learn a lot about my current state of consciousness when I have to wait in line. The checkout clerk & the people ahead of me in line are not doing this to me, they are just there. If I am impatient and caught up in self-importance, I may project negative qualities onto them. If I am relaxed & in the flow, I will smile and watch the parade.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7388155 - 09/09/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You have pushed my buttons so much over the last year that many of them just quit working.


This is exactly the goal of this teaching method weedhopper.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: TameMe]
    #7388163 - 09/09/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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TameMe said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
Because I want to let you in on a little secret that I believe to be true.

Actually I'm not selfish. I want us all to succeed. I'm trying you get your attention. Not to me and what I'm saying but to your response and internal reaction to what I am saying.

I'll bet even this post will push buttons.




this is a good topic....but sadly one that can't be fully explored due to the rules of this forum. we can't discuss the personal nature of the posters.....only the ideas.




I would be glad to discuss this with you in PM. Then we can really have some fun. Let's rumble.:lol:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Veritas]
    #7388727 - 09/09/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Veritas said:
Some button-pushers are not conscious of their pushing, and are just "doing their thing" in proximity to you. Others might be testing you, or trying to teach you.

Does it matter what their intentions are, if you can derive the same lessons either way?

For example, I learn a lot about my current state of consciousness when I have to wait in line. The checkout clerk & the people ahead of me in line are not doing this to me, they are just there. If I am impatient and caught up in self-importance, I may project negative qualities onto them. If I am relaxed & in the flow, I will smile and watch the parade.




certain "lessons" i guess could be derived regardless of the pushers intentions....but i think there are more lessons to be learned from looking at all intentions.


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Re: Why am I pushing your buttons? [Re: Icelander]
    #7388732 - 09/09/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

alright.

if i'm up for it after i finish my homework.


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