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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7386101 - 09/08/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Great post with an excellent analysis.

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Are you able to discuss the subject instead of attacking the person? What a shitty and immature comment




Our communications only show others the reflections of their reality. Sometimes this causes them to take things personally. It seems to be the case with this person. They will not see my point because somewhere I have touched a nerve with them. That is OK.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7386162 - 09/08/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree. My posts are out of my hands once they are loose in the wild. Let them roam where they may.




Hues' posts out on the savannah:



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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7386225 - 09/08/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My posts are more like this:



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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7386387 - 09/09/07 12:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
My posts are more like this:







And like this after I have finished deconstructing them:



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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7386568 - 09/09/07 02:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

if you've mastered life what else is there to do but laugh and grow fat...


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7386580 - 09/09/07 02:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Run plays.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7386925 - 09/09/07 07:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Being grossly fat didn't make me laugh, but who knows it may work for you...give it a try.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7386932 - 09/09/07 07:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well you can try, but jaguars do bite...


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7387631 - 09/09/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This seems the most likely answer to your question:

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After all is not the material form often considered "profane" :lol: by many spiritual people?




Those "masters" probably drew a mental line between the sacred and the profane, and pursued a spiritual path in an attempt to transcend the physical.  (Good luck with all that. :tongue:)

In my experience, it is much more difficult to "transcend" the physical when your body is unhealthy.  A healthy body will sit quietly, without pain, and respond when action is needed.  An unhealthy body complains constantly, and distracts the mind from other pursuits.  An unhealthy body is desperate to regain balance, and will clamor for attention until it gets what it needs.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Veritas]
    #7387674 - 09/09/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Swami Vivekanada was an exception.

In one of his lectures,he said:

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'Be Strong, my young friends, that is my advice to you. You will be nearer to heaven though football than though the study of GITA.




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Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: shakercee]
    #7387698 - 09/09/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)



The question is, did he practice what he preached?


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Veritas]
    #7387712 - 09/09/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I totally agree. If ones body is using all of it's energy in vain attempts to heal itself while the person does not support it's healing efforts there is a constant energy sink there...a leak if you will. How will you have energy to pursue a path of progress in other things with this constant leak.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Veritas]
    #7387720 - 09/09/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

He's a little pudgy, but he doesn't look too bad.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Veritas]
    #7387724 - 09/09/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can't find a pic of him playing football :lol:


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Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7387734 - 09/09/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've seen the truth of that in watching my mother's slow decline.  :sad:  She is a brilliant woman, truly skillful in her field (teaching), with many insights the world would benefit from hearing/reading, yet her poor health has drained her energy for decades.

She desperately tries to find a "quick fix" for the conditions she has created gradually over the past 35 years, while continuing the habits that destroy her health.

No one is exempt from this cause/effect relationship, and yet so many of us (myself included) seem to want to believe that they will be the exception.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7387740 - 09/09/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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He's a little pudgy, but he doesn't look too bad.




Tough to tell with all those layers of robes.  :grin:

Hey, why don't we see any photos of gurus playing football?  Or tennis, or racquetball (;))?  How about lifting weights?  We see the yogis doing yoga, but rarely are we presented with a spiritual role model who is also fit and active.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Veritas]
    #7387765 - 09/09/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It would something to see a spiritual guru posing like this  :lol:



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Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7387770 - 09/09/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Lately I have started to notice the author photos on the backs of spiritual and self help books. I have noticed that so many of these authors are fat and severely out of shape...or just plain unhealthy looking.




It is just another way to pick up chicks. Because they're so often ignored as potential mates by the opposite sex, they fleece sad, needy, or stupid people and use their money to rise up the social ladder.


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: shakercee]
    #7387774 - 09/09/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"Ah-nald says, may your biceps be as big as your spirit!"  :lol:


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Re: How Come So Many Spiritual Masters are Fat Asses [Re: Veritas]
    #7387822 - 09/09/07 11:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sports are a waste of energy from a Yogic perspective. Moreover, the competative mentality for ego-glorification, monetary and social gain is contrary to the essence of Yoga philosophy.

More often we see someone like Chogyam Trungpa with the exalted title Rinpoche, who swilled saki, smoked cigarettes and hit on married women. He wrote great books, although I tend to question the value certain ideas like "Vajra pride," (which differs from ordinary pride only by its pathological self-importance). Trungpa's 'followers' would rationalize all of his gross habits with sayings about "crazy wisdom" and how the rest of us unenlightened monkeys hold false preconceptions about what compassion and wisdom are like. He had a couple of his followers cut off Bhagwan Dass's long dreadlocks at Naropa while he was passed out in a drunken stupor. I don't see this as being very compassionate or very wise, but maybe I'm blinded by my preconceived notion of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.'


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