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A crazy experience...
    #7383039 - 09/08/07 09:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I hope that people will read this and take something away from it, whatever that may be. I will start off by saying that I am an experienced tripper with both lsd and mushies. Last night at about 9 p.m. I prepared 5 grams of mushroom tea for myself, while my roomate took 2.5 and my other friend, who was new to me, took 3.5 as well as the dredges of my foul tea (somehow it came out tasting like ass, completely unlike my first tea recipe). A little more preface for one said individual who was the friend and not the roomate, he was a very chill kid even though I had never met him before. He was very far out already intellectually and after talking to him at length about life, the world, the infinite, etc., I thought he would appreciate the new perspective of mushrooms. He was very respectful and good vibes were all around, everything was given and nothing was taken.

About an hour after ingesting our preparations and smoking a come up bowl, my friend and I decided to go walk around our college campus to enjoy the nature scenes. My roomie was a little in a bad mood because he didn't think his mushies worked and I encouraged him to come on our promenade but he seemed obstinate and so we left him at the house. He later told me that as soon as we left, his trip escalated in intensity and he regretted not going out with us. What happened on the walk, that series of events, was something that I thought was under my control until finally I realized that it wasn't and I had indeed committed an error of judgement in not taking further precautions against what subsequently followed, and though I was tripping rather hard myself, I still should have seen the telltale signs that this aquaintence of mine had gone temporarily crazy.

As we walked he asked me what year it was, repeatedly, and I answered that it was now. It always has been...he kept saying things like "stop" and "don't do that" to me, making me walk in front of him and then changing his mind and powerwalking to get in front of me. As we finally got to our destination, a beautiful place that gives us a whole view of the city, things took a turn for the worst, yet again. I forgot to mention that several times throughout the trip the kid pulled out his phone and talked for 5 or 10 minutes to nobody but himself, and he was yelling at the person. I realized he was off his rocker and encouraged him to chill and turn his phone off but he kept coming back to it to communicate with whoever, himself I'm guessing. The kid then decides that he doesn't need any of it, its all an illusion, a joke (something I probably instilled in his brain, the idea that the world is a joke to be laughed at).

I don't know how the hell the kid managed to bring all his goodies with him (cell phone, ipod, wallet with fair amount of money, keys), but he did. He proceeded to whip his ipod at the cement stairs near us, completely smashing it. He threw his cellphone down a hill, lost his keys, etc. The story up to this point is fine but it got even crazier, because my friend seriously went crazy, he lost touch with it all, and thats not suprising because he ate relatively potent mushies and it was his first time. I could tell and empathize with him that feeling of more, how he wanted the intensity of life to come at him and grab him by the balls, he seemed to want to fight. I saw it in him and asked him if he wanted to fight and he said he did and I knew that wasn't very cool, I said whatever, I'm not gonna fight, blah blah blah.

So he came over to where I was sitting and observing, and started to touch me, like put his hands on my face. I simply removed them and told him to stop fucking around, I'm not the person for that. I started to walk away because good vibes were no longer in the air...and he came with me. What came next was a slow motion punch to my jaw, because I saw it coming, I let him hit me square on, and I didn't retaliate or anything, I just let him know that he was crossing lines he didn't want to cross. I asked him if he wanted to die, ambiguously referring either by my hands or in general in the context of the infinite and the fact that life is perpetual. He asked me if it were true that there is no such thing as nothing, which I coined though I doubt I'm the first to think of it. I said yes which probably only heightened the state he was in.

So after being punched I kept walking, deciding it was time to go back to my house. I heard him come behind me and looked back in time to see him running and jumping on me from behind, not unlike a monkey. I don't know why but he thought I was evil and he wanted to battle me, anywho, at this point I was fed up and so I laid him out on the pavement with a hold around his neck and told him to stop fucking around. I should have stayed with the kid and mastered my own emotions, but I was angry and said I was returning back to my house, and that I wasn't sure if he welcome. He said fine, leave me here, where he was lying on the ground. And so I made my way home and informed my roomates of the situation, and my roomie who ingested with us started to get paranoid, especially after he saw me and how serious I was, which is a bit of a moot point because I was tripping after all.

To wrap it up, we panicked, called my gf who came and picked us up from our house and took us back to hers, because I didn't feel safe in my house, I thought maybe cops would get involved. Because of my fears I ditched my whole grow op. and everything...so we were over at my gfs house and my phone had 2 msgs and 6 missed calls, all from the kid who went crazy. He had ended up getting naked and walking around campus at 1-2 in the morning. Luckily he found some good people or they found him and gave him clothes and shelter. This report or story is written 7 hours after I stopped tripping, I hope it was informative at the very least if not a little entertaining. Just beware, fellow shroomerites, sometimes things can get out of hand. Always remind fellow trippers especially newbies not to bring anything with them of material value. And despite whatever happens, even if you have to bear hug someone or restrain them physically, stay with that person, all I can say is that I'm so lucky nothing worse came of last night than scary events. I'm really glad that the kid is ok and despite what happened don't hold anything against him. He was his own responsibility and the situation was most definitely mine. Now I'm going back to where we were to see if I can help find his wallet (with 300 dollars in it, and creditcard/everything else). He lost a total of 750 in one night through material possesions. Was it worth it, if it were me most definitely.

Peace, Love, and Happiness to all.


Edited by outhere4 (09/08/07 11:09 AM)


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: outhere4]
    #7383113 - 09/08/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

try using paragraphs


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: stefan]
    #7383119 - 09/08/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This post smashes your face with text.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #7383289 - 09/08/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That's awesome that someone took him in and sheltered him. It's a great thing to hear, even if the way it came about wasn't the best. I always take pretty extreme precautions when tripping, and nothing has it me in the ass as of yet.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Kickle]
    #7383322 - 09/08/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I will try paragraphs next time or maybe even edit it for those who got smashed in the face, haha. The kid definitely took too much and I trashed my operation, drove it to some random place with my girl and my roomie and ditched it. I just got back from scouring our tripping spot and I found his clothes and there was already a pig sniffing around the area, who found his wallet by chance, which he had 500 dollars in and they think hes a drug dealer, nobody got in trouble except he got an assault charge for hitting me, even though I said I wasn't prosecuting, which is gay as hell.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: outhere4]
    #7383361 - 09/08/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That is fucked the fuck up. I do not know how you controlled yourself there. Newbie tripper or not, if mother fucker would've hit me in the face, especially while tripping, I would've have pounded his face repeatedly in return. And if I was tripping, and that angry, I probably wouldn't be at all concerned if he died right there due to it.

Fuck that kid, for sure.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7383386 - 09/08/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Ell Ess Bree said:
That is fucked the fuck up. I do not know how you controlled yourself there. Newbie tripper or not, if mother fucker would've hit me in the face, especially while tripping, I would've have pounded his face repeatedly in return. And if I was tripping, and that angry, I probably wouldn't be at all concerned if he died right there due to it.

Fuck that kid, for sure.




Some people have self control.

Its not nice to beat people up because theyre having a difficult trip.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7383388 - 09/08/07 11:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No, hes a really cool kid, he just went crazy. Thats why insanity holds up in court, they don't know what they're doing, and he lost touch with reality. He is responsible for his actions but its of a paradoxical nature. I have excellent self control and even if I am tripping on 10 hits of liquid or 5 gs of mushies I am constantly aware of my self...


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: outhere4]
    #7383399 - 09/08/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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nobody got in trouble except he got an assault charge for hitting me, even though I said I wasn't prosecuting,




I don't know exactly the conditions, but I think the state can choose to press charges in certain circumstances even if the victimized party doesn't. Maybe since this occured in a public area?

Anyway, did he get his wallet and money back from the cop, or did the cop choose to keep the $ for evidence?


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: TTT]
    #7383403 - 09/08/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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TTT said:

Some people have self control.

Its not nice to beat people up because theyre having a difficult trip.




I wouldn't beat anyone up for having a difficult trip. I would guide someone through that. But when someone decides to take it too far and get physical with me just because they're not liking the mushrooms they decided to ingest of their own free will, then I'm going to get real physical right back, ESPECIALLY if I was tripping.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7383414 - 09/08/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes, he regained all his money and personal items from the po. I tried to guide his trip as best as possible, I think I took him to far at once. I did get physical with him, I laid his ass out on the ground. In retrospect I should have decked him one in the face just to knock sense into or out of him. That probably would have prevented the events from going much farther than a bruise on the face but who knows, it is what it is.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Ell Ess Bree]
    #7383433 - 09/08/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Ell Ess Bree said:
Quote:

TTT said:

Some people have self control.

Its not nice to beat people up because theyre having a difficult trip.




I wouldn't beat anyone up for having a difficult trip. I would guide someone through that. But when someone decides to take it too far and get physical with me just because they're not liking the mushrooms they decided to ingest of their own free will, then I'm going to get real physical right back, ESPECIALLY if I was tripping.




If I was in that sort of situation, Id knock the person out. But getting to into it with someone whos lost that much control cant end well.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: TTT]
    #7383444 - 09/08/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Starting or escalating a fight with physical violence while tripping seems like the worst idea I could possibly conceive of...


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: outhere4]
    #7383463 - 09/08/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno about all the self control and all this.

I have plenty of self control, but I have to say (and some of you may agree with me) that sometimes people ahve to let some things out. I cant imagine the amount of repressed crap this kid had in his head, but Im glad you didnt kill him.

Although, I must say, I have seen people get like this, and personally, my way of handling it (and Im not saying you were wrong for laying him out in anger) is to actually even guide that! It just seems that the  most primal instincts can come out and his anger and frustration although not directed at you, HAD to come out.

I would have just said, ok, fuck it, you wanna go, lets go. And then just lay down the rules of the "game"-no face smashing, no ball kicking (ok, maybe a little balll kicking), etc. But pounces, tackles, grabs, pins, whatever else goes. Friends and myself used to play stalking games with these rules when tripping in the woods too.

Myself and some friends have had some instances like this between us, and also Ive had this happen with newbie shroomers I didnt know, and usually what happened was that me and someone else would go, and a few minuts later wed be sitting on our asses laffing coz we just pounced at the same time and bumped out heads so hard we could fight anymore!

Dont know whhat you guys or others think, but its been a great way to relieve pent up anxiety and stress, and really brings people closer and makes them more friendly and pliable when they start wigging (esp.  in the way you described). Even people you dont know will become very good friends once they have relieved their primal and agressive kill-something drive. This is usually a good way to guide someone if you are the one in control. Let them take it out, and you get a great workout!

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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: gmuralid]
    #7383767 - 09/08/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I dunno about all the self control and all this.

I have plenty of self control, but I have to say (and some of you may agree with me) that sometimes people ahve to let some things out. I cant imagine the amount of repressed crap this kid had in his head, but Im glad you didnt kill him.

Although, I must say, I have seen people get like this, and personally, my way of handling it (and Im not saying you were wrong for laying him out in anger) is to actually even guide that! It just seems that the  most primal instincts can come out and his anger and frustration although not directed at you, HAD to come out.

I would have just said, ok, fuck it, you wanna go, lets go. And then just lay down the rules of the "game"-no face smashing, no ball kicking (ok, maybe a little balll kicking), etc. But pounces, tackles, grabs, pins, whatever else goes. Friends and myself used to play stalking games with these rules when tripping in the woods too.

Myself and some friends have had some instances like this between us, and also Ive had this happen with newbie shroomers I didnt know, and usually what happened was that me and someone else would go, and a few minuts later wed be sitting on our asses laffing coz we just pounced at the same time and bumped out heads so hard we could fight anymore!

Dont know whhat you guys or others think, but its been a great way to relieve pent up anxiety and stress, and really brings people closer and makes them more friendly and pliable when they start wigging (esp.  in the way you described). Even people you dont know will become very good friends once they have relieved their primal and agressive kill-something drive. This is usually a good way to guide someone if you are the one in control. Let them take it out, and you get a great workout!

:smile: [/quote

I agree with you, thats why I asked him if he wanted to fight. But I'm not the type of kid to fight with, my self control over my body especially is too rigorous to allow me to let my instincts carry my actions, it took me a milisecond to flip this kid on his back and have a chokehold on him. I'm 6'1 and he is 6'5 it would have been fun, I think in future situations it might be more ideal especially since I won't do such things with people who are so inexperienced. But even after he punched me and I had to restrain him he had his arm around my shoulder as if we were best of bros, and we were then. But his actions influenced my trip in a negative way and he was a little to crazy for me to allow him to mess with me.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: outhere4]
    #7384101 - 09/08/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

self control this, self control that...

that kid went fukin nuts.. must have hallucinated way too hard and wasn't ready to have his universe handed to him on a silver platter. Instead of experiencing the trip, he tried to be more physicaly involved with it than is necessary. Trippers should know that you need nothing more to do that to enjoy the sights of nature, the sounds of music and the beauty of art. He became aware of this illusion that we call "life as a human", and tried to mold it as he saw fit. This is why he should have been in a familiar setting, such as his or a friends house. Never outdoors.


I basicaly had the EXACT same thing happen to me. From the confusion, to the destruction of material things, to punching my friend in the head, and finaly stripping down naked.

And I wasn't even a newbie at the time.. there were just certain events (not to mention ridiculously potent mushies) that convinced me that the dream I was in was the dream that I had always been in and that it was now time to take the universe into my own hands. Bad idea.

It's good to hear that your friend is ok, as I was after my crazy trip. I ended up with some stitches from fighting a public telephone.

As soon as you think you are the center of the universe.. well, you literally feel as though you are dwelling in the part of the universe that you were MEANT to be in. And because of that, you believe that you have control over every event that happens in your life. Seriously, the only control you could EVER have during a trip, is GOING WITH THE FLOW, and ALLOWING certain events to take place. Start fighting.. and you will lose.

Kudos to you for not fighting him back.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Ginseng1]
    #7385116 - 09/08/07 07:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds pretty messed up but you did right in helping him rather than doing something to make things even worse. That wouldn't have been good for anyone.

When I turn someone on to their first trip I feel responsible for them. After all I know what they are asking for. They only think they do until they actually experience it. :smile:


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7385173 - 09/08/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i agree that you handled it the best you could, you tried to work it out, and when that didnt happen you washed your hands of the situation for the duration of the trip. this was a smart move, it could've gotten worse had you stayed with him and with both of you tripping and a grow setup in your dorm/house it was good no authorities got involved with your shit at the time. that is a wild story, i have never seen someone go that crazy during a trip, but i did witness acute psychosis that happened over a two month long period to probably one of my closest friends. this girl is the greatest woman i have ever met, but she went off her rocker for that time and it was one of the saddest and most disturbing things i've ever witnessed. it happened as a result of a combination of things including over use of alcohol, over use of psychedelics, and abuse of the amphetamine Focalin. We believe it was the focalin that did her in for various reasons which i wont go into. but anyways i just wanted to say that i think you handled this extremely well for someone sober, nevermind being on 5g of nice boomers when it went down. it must have been a scary situation and im glad it worked out, peace :peace:


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: AnotherDimension]
    #7385415 - 09/08/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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This post smashes your face with text.




haha. i dunno why, but that made me laugh!


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: Syle]
    #7385614 - 09/08/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Scary, but then some people go mental when they drink too. I'd say your friend should avoid using Mushrooms, atleast until he has matured a little more.


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: cloudtripper]
    #7386414 - 09/09/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My first trip was similair to the one your friend had. There is a point where if you cant convince your mind your just on drugs then bad things will happen. Feelings of death, Good and Evil, Reality and rules of life, Vivid memories you thought were long forgotten, and new textures and everything.

Point is if your a newbie, study shrooms and their effects first, and like others have said Dont fucking go outside unless its your backyard


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Re: A crazy experience... [Re: outhere4]
    #7386770 - 09/09/07 05:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree with you, thats why I asked him if he wanted to fight.

...I'm 6'1 and he is 6'5 it would have been fun, I think in future situations it might be more ideal especially since I won't do such things with people who are so inexperienced.

... even after he punched me and I had to restrain him he had his arm around my shoulder as if we were best of bros, and we were then.

...his actions influenced my trip in a negative way and he was a little to crazy for me to allow him to mess with me.




Your cool. Im glad you were chilled out enough to handle this so well. Speaks loads for your sense of place and self. Glad to hear it.

Good peoples. :wink:


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