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simple question...easy answer(?)
#7382564 - 09/08/07 05:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm curious what it looks like when you attempt to spawn a large bulk of substrate with a lesser amount of mycelium (how exctly it looks as the mycelium spreads / tell tell signs to look out for / etc)
it's a very simple procedure...and there's no need to go into excessive amounts of details over a hypothetical situation anyhow...just a very simple question that could relate fairly equally to any munber of different variations:
- you're using a clump of mycelium to spawn a pre-steralized already made bag of substrate - the mycelium is indeed broken up into tiny pieces / and mixed thouroughly throughout the bag - the bag is then closed and seal imediately...and all this had been done in a very sterile environment (where caution and care had been taken to assure absolute minimal potential for contaminants)
remember - PURELY HYPOTHETICAL situation (read: assume evrything went perfect)
all I want to know is what it looks like when the mycelium does begin to actually spread (e.g. what the growing patterns are, and what to expect in these sorts of situation in regards to how exactly it spreads / anf tell tell signs to look out for to no that it is indeed doing what it ought to be doing)
real simple question: what does it look like?
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Re: simple question...easy answer(?) [Re: Muppet]
#7382572 - 09/08/07 05:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It can look like a lot of things, but... mostly it looks like fungus growing. Fluffy or rhizomorphic. Should be pure white. There's a lot lot lot of pics of mycelium around, I assume you've seen some- it looks like that.
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Re: simple question...easy answer(?) [Re: Dr_T]
#7382625 - 09/08/07 05:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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alright then...riddle me this:
when you first start out an initial mycobag - the mycelium begins at the point where it had been inoculated, and then slowly but surely works its way out throughout the entire bag (e.g. you can see viens of it branching out, and then the empty spaces slowly start filling in as the mycelium eventually reconnects with itself and continues to branch out even more at those intersections)
does it grow in the same manner when you are using mycelium to 'inoculate' a bag of bulk substrate...or is it normal for there to be millions of tiny little infindecimal 'specks' of white shit that *could* be microscopic chunklets of mycelium that broke off during the mixing procedure, which are now begining to spawn in exactly the same manner as mycelium initially grown from a syringe except for the fact that you don't notice these spots branching out from larger sized chunks of mycelium that are dispursed within the bag, but rather - even in between where you see actual mycelium
cause I know what mycelium looks like, and I'm real good at differentiating it from most kinds of contaiminates (and as it is right now - it's still too early to tell one way or the other) I'm just caught a little off guard by the fact that I'm seeing a lot of little tinny speckles of white all throughout my bulk grow right now, and I'm curious if that's not how these things are supposed to happen in situations like these
is it possible that minute pieces of mycelium that are too small to see with the naked eye are also equally distrubuted throughout the bag, and effectively comming into view as they are beginning to grow...or is it likely that envirnmoent wasn't quite as pristene as I had hoped it had been, and something else is now growing along side my mycelium
cause right now it just looks like a whole buncha rye / the occasional piece of mycelium covered corn / and a countless number of white 'specs' interlaced throughout the entire bag
is this a bad sign
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#7382630 - 09/08/07 06:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: simple question...easy answer(?) [Re: ]
#7382643 - 09/08/07 06:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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quit trolling
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Re: simple question...easy answer(?) [Re: Muppet]
#7382685 - 09/08/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Muppet said: alright then...riddle me this: is this a bad sign
What you are describing doesn't sound like what I would expect to see.
In a few days, you'll know for sure, but be prepared for the worst.
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Re: simple question...easy answer(?) [Re: Dr_T]
#7382690 - 09/08/07 06:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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But I wouldn't expect a contam to be as even distributed as you are saying, either. Pics would help of course, but time will tell.
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Re: simple question...easy answer(?) [Re: Dr_T]
#7382793 - 09/08/07 07:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah...that's the bitch about not having a cam
BUT
I am noticing a few of these same little white specs actually on one of the corn kernels itself though...so yeah...I'm beginning to think maybe it's something else
which is cool, cause you can't expect to get everything right the first damn time (especially not in this game)
so yeah - all that means is that I have to re-evaluate my definition of 'pristene' and bone up on what other people are doing in these sorts of situations in order to effectively spawn en masse (cause I would assume you couldn't very well re-cook the substrait without also killing off the mycelium that's already growing as well)
but then how exactly are other people making it work
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