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do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance
#7379494 - 09/07/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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well yes or no, i dont...
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379544 - 09/07/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Acyl]
#7379563 - 09/07/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh my god, i totally have this debate on a monthly basis.........
i think that it is non toxic...
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379597 - 09/07/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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You know, it's a documented fact that it's not a toxic substance.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: JunkFood]
#7379611 - 09/07/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well in the "Alcohol: do you use it" thread in the psychedlic experience I was getting in an argument with some noob and he swears up and down it is toxic and he actually said in one of his posts... its a toxin that is non toxic to the body, am I the only one that realizes how stupid that sounds? Saying that is a complete paradox
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: JunkFood]
#7379612 - 09/07/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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1 : containing or being poisonous material especially when capable of causing death or serious debilitation <toxic waste> <a toxic radioactive gas> <an insecticide highly toxic to birds> 2 : exhibiting symptoms of infection or toxicosis <the patient became toxic two days later> 3 : extremely harsh, malicious, or harmful <toxic sarcasm> - tox·ic·i·ty /täk-'si-s&-tE/ noun
They don't really fit that definition.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Stizzle]
#7379617 - 09/07/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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The LD50 is less than half that of caffeine..
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379628 - 09/07/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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its a biological FACT that it is not a poison or a toxin
that guy is a dumbass
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379630 - 09/07/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Aspirin is more toxic.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379646 - 09/07/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Honestly what drugs ARE toxic? The only ones I can think of are meth and alcohol.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: JunkFood]
#7379657 - 09/07/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Psy Baba]
#7379663 - 09/07/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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"The toxicity of psilocybin is relatively low; when administered intravenously in rabbits, Psilocybin's LD50 is approximately 12.5mg/kg. In rats, the oral LD50 is 280mg/kg — almost one and a half times that of caffeine.[7] Death from psilocybin intake alone is unknown at recreational or medicinal levels."
OR the shroomery even has info
http://www.shroomery.org/6297/Psilocybe-Toxicity-Information
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379678 - 09/07/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yo check my new sig
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Atheist]
#7379699 - 09/07/07 04:11 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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lol you should add a to that
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Atheist]
#7379710 - 09/07/07 04:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I imagine, in the case of this or any foreign chemical, there is a minimal amount of wear on the liver. As far as physical toxicity, it is minimal enough to not every worry about.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Psy Baba]
#7379716 - 09/07/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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DuNeRaVeR said: I imagine, in the case of this or any foreign chemical, there is a minimal amount of wear on the liver. As far as physical toxicity, it is minimal enough to not every worry about.
Probably like the amount of "wear" you put on your muscles by lifting a heavy object.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: ZippoZ]
#7379721 - 09/07/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Capatalistc nomad said: oh my god, i totally have this debate on a monthly basis.........
With who?
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: JunkFood]
#7379726 - 09/07/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Exatcly. Everything has a limited duration, nothing physical is eternal. so pretty much. Don't think twice about it being toxic.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: JunkFood]
#7379729 - 09/07/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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other ignorant retards probably
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Psy Baba]
#7379735 - 09/07/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Furthermore, "toxic" doesn't necessarily mean brain damage. Mushrooms can make you puke which means there's something "toxic" in them, but not toxic like inhaling windex.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: JunkFood]
#7379759 - 09/07/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: Furthermore, "toxic" doesn't necessarily mean brain damage. Mushrooms can make you puke which means there's something "toxic" in them, but not toxic like inhaling windex.
I'm not sure as to why shrooms can make you puke though, T. McKenna has a quote I beleive in Food of the Gods that explains that shrooms are supposedly the only natural psychedelic which contains nothing to which will make a person purge.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379763 - 09/07/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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of course not.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379766 - 09/07/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have never puked. I think maybe it is a reaction to the bodies interpretation of what has entered. But I guess I am not inclined to preach on that subject being as I have never experienced.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Psy Baba]
#7379806 - 09/07/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I puked on shrooms once but it was at the peak and I'm 100% positive it was anxiety induced since I was having a really bad trip (didnt have an upset stomach or nausea). Other than that anytime I have shroomed my stomach is always fine, even after initial ingestion.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379813 - 09/07/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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My friends and I have all experienced mild to intense stomache cramps though.
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7379815 - 09/07/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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out of my 30+ shrooms trips in my life, i'v puked twice
both from being in a bad trip (didnt feel good physically or mentally)
i dose pretty high though, 5gs atleast
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Re: do you consider psylocibin a toxic substance [Re: Psy Baba]
#7379821 - 09/07/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I dont get those either, and the day after my shitting is always fine
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