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    #746130 - 07/14/02 07:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #746464 - 07/14/02 09:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for helping 'us' find the light. We could have never made it without you.

The endless hours you have put in, trying to decide what safety measures are best for 'us', quite an accomplishment.....

Noone ever grew prints and conducted businees thru proxy before you were around, God bless you my son.....

Go on, take the bucket and run.

LOL

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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #747162 - 07/15/02 06:42 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Just curious, when you say your moving on, are you quitting the pod, or just leaving your association with the OMC? I do think the pod is a good option for some growers and hope it will stay available to those who want to pay for it. Just curious


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I just looked at my profile and realized I had a website at one point in time on geocities, it's not there anymore and I have no idea what I had on it. Anybody remember my website from several years aga? PM if so please.


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    #747383 - 07/15/02 09:00 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)



Edited by Mycotek (07/19/02 03:23 PM)


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    #747607 - 07/15/02 10:42 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: vatoloco]
    #747622 - 07/15/02 10:47 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

From what i gathered in another post, they are reishi, a medicinal mushroom.


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #747819 - 07/15/02 11:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Good for you, and congratulations. I hope the negotiations go favorably for you.

BTW, you weren't insinuating that I supply spores to vendors are you?


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    #748133 - 07/15/02 01:41 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #756545 - 07/18/02 04:06 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Mycotek,mcman, etc..
Please at the very least do us the service of pulling a baptist (no offense, please) and saying "I have been saved, come to me in the light" instead of stating what you have in such a manner.
I pm'd you on this issue, but you seem obstinate.
You have violated every one of your so called rules in the past, and even continue to do so!
There is little else than to simply state the facts, you are acting in a hypocritical manner.

"I have about 1 more month here at the omc before I will be moving onto other interests, and I would like to leave behind some important facts that I have accumulated in my experience as a vendor as well as the related affairs that I have recently encountered with the law"
- you have left and deleted all your posts how many times before?
I do not disagree that legal issues must be present and openly discussed, but you seem to forget your own actions too quickly.
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in response to the post in another thread, where I was introduced to your new ideology:

DinoMyc, I am only going to plug up this thread once so if you want to continue this topic then please post in the other thread that I started about my sig and my decision to change it.

"Is this not a rather sharp change of attitude from you?"

No, I wouldn't say so. I am sure that even Thor could tell you of many times that I have discussed safety issues with him; dealing directly with either unsafe vendor behavior or under aged membership (way before the vendor's forum was in existence and around the time that he was becoming admin of the site).

" you have copied and posted peoples pics in posts which are not deleted,"

There is nothing unsafe or illegal about that.

"and I believe that you have postes pics of your results with psilocybe cubensis and your pod -and- going farther back with your MC.... "

No, that is definitely not true. I have always made it very clear that I would never post those kinds of pics with or without my product! Don't you recall all the hell I caught for defending myself on that safety issue back with the MC when people wanted to see "proof" that it could actually work and I refused to consider it? And the same with the pod when people asked for proof and pics when I first introduced it last August here at the shroomery? You are definitely mistaking on that one!

I did make the mistake of posting my customer's pics in the customer gallery on my website until I had the chance to consult a legal representative on the subject and then I pulled the gallery offline the minute I got home. And I will never do it again.

"you used to operate in conjunction with a psilocybian mushroom spore vendor, and had pictures of those species linked to or on your website"

Yes indeed, and there was nothing illegal about that. We never sold or shipped the spore products with the Hydra-Pod orders. We operated completely independent of each other. I was very clear about that from the beginning with Ralph and we had about the safest arrangement possible. Also, using pics to represent spore races is not a crime!

-Mycotek

Make the shroomery a safer place by supporting only safe vendors!
A safe vendor is one who;
*never posts images in a public forum demonstrating illegal use of their products.
*doesn't offer support for the cultivation of species which produce illegal substances.
*doesn't promote their products in a way that implies their being used for anything other than legal purposes.

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"" you have copied and posted peoples pics in posts which are not deleted,"

There is nothing unsafe or illegal about that. "
- I said NOTHING of legality, I stated that it was in violation of YOUR rule, and I quote "never posts images in a public forum demonstrating illegal use of their products. "
... and you did EXACTLY that.
"doesn't offer support for the cultivation of species which produce illegal substances. "
you have in the past offered advice on psilocybian mushrooms, and you continue to 'offer support' in other ways (your rule is a weak statement, in that it is ambiguous to the extent of malleability)

?No, that is definitely not true. I have always made it very clear that I would never post those kinds of pics with or without my product!?
But you have posted other peoples pics involving your product and the aforementioned illegal mushrooms.
.. If you had not so conveniently deleted all your posts from past incarnations here, I would have spent the time searching through and verifying you statement, however at this point you appear to have ?pled the fifth? as to your past activities and statements.
..
?Yes indeed, and there was nothing illegal about that. We never sold or shipped the spore products with the Hydra-Pod orders. We operated completely independent of each other. I was very clear about that from the beginning with Ralph and we had about the safest arrangement possible. Also, using pics to represent spore races is not a crime! ?
No, but you operated in open conjunction, and you linked directly to his site..
You do not have to be logical or think yourself in the wrong, but I for one find your new stance hypocritical and repugnant.

The implied nature of your ?rules? is part of what I find so offensive, those who do not remember your past or are otherwise unaware would likely believe you to be just such a vendor,< what with your spiffy new website and all , which does incidentally look well constructed>, and likewise conclude that most other vendors are unsafe vendors, and therefore that people should buy from you instead of other vendors.

I do not disagree with the legal issue in any way! I disagree with your convenient amnesia and deleted past(s).

Have a good day.


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: DinoMyc]
    #758925 - 07/19/02 12:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I think you just proved Mycotek's point in your last post Dino...


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: mixpix]
    #759360 - 07/19/02 03:12 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

In what manner?
what is it they say? 'let those free from sin cast the first stone?'


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    #759446 - 07/19/02 04:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)



Edited by Mycotek (07/19/02 04:46 PM)


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Anonymous

Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #759778 - 07/19/02 07:30 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Mycotek

So let me get this straight. You are going to sell out for a big bundle and you're warning everyone to do as you say, not as you did?

Leaf


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #760000 - 07/19/02 08:59 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

High,

I just saw that this post became a good one with a lot of nice contributions.
A better post than those flaming one's.

How is it possible that a bunch of people leave for America to start a new life with spiritual freedom. And in 200 years the people turned it into a dope hating and war liking country. How the fuck does this come. I mean If God (in God we thrust) created the heaven and earth wow can people choose those Presidents?

Did anyone ever check those guy's before voting? I hear about shroomers voting for Bush. I think they are responseble too for the war on drugs!!!!!!
The Usa aproved a law which makes it legal to have a war action against Holland if we ever try to get a usa person in front of our International Court of War. Sorry to say but Uncle Sam in on its retour.

I think that being save is a symptom thing. Vote for freedom and not for the fools who are leading your beautifull country right now.
But until that time follow your heart I would say and demostrate for real freedom.

Than MJ is a great example, and many more are.

I just needed to express my emotions,


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: MeneerCactus]
    #760093 - 07/19/02 09:33 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well said Eric... Unfortunately the US an Canadian governments are set up so we are usually voting for the least effective asshole, and hoping they don't screw up too badly.

Our goverments and law enforcement agencies are set up, not to protect and serve, but to limit and control to their beliefs... not those of the people.


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Anonymous]
    #761654 - 07/20/02 10:53 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Mycotek

Well, I'm not really trying to "dog" ya. Just trying to point out that maybe what has actually changed is your perspective because you are about to get out of the biz.

I mean, I really don't get some of you guys at times. Murple is about on the edge of telling us in the Other Drugs forum that you could be arrested for having naturally occurring DMT in your system and you are basically pushing that vendors go totally clandestine. Maybe you two are correct, maybe I'm the one that's fucked up.

In either case, I'm going to go roll me another phatty.

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    #767060 - 07/22/02 11:05 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I think any issue of "hypocrisy" etc is kinda moot. Mycotek, your sig doesn't offend me because of your past actions. In fact, I understand and appreciate your change of heart, and you willingness to help other vendors. But I think some vendors probably know all about this, and still choose not to practice it because they know they are small fish. Not that past history is any indication of future events, but until PF is compromised, I personally wouldn't worry about the actions of most vendors. Yes, some extremely flamboyant actions wouldn't be cool, but most vendors aren't that flamboyant. IMO doing business with vendors who posts pictures, give general grow info, or give step by step details on what to not do with their products (because it would be illegal of course and they should tell people what exactly will result in them breaking the law) etc etc. Not because these things are definitely 100% legal, but because I don't feel they make a vendor an unsafe person to do business with.

Your advice is good, and seems genuine. Your advice for covering ones own legal ass 100% I do agree with. It's just the insinuation that not following it to a T makes a vendor unsafe. That I don't agree with. But I won't dog you for it It is after all, your sig and not mine...


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: mycofile]
    #768207 - 07/22/02 05:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I dont know if this has been stated already but i will say it anyways.

Lets just say all hell breaks loose here and the DEA or some shit comes in and looks to bust vendors. Maybe pictures of their products being used illegally would get you shut down but lets say your helping growers with info etc did. All the vendors but Mycotek would be closed down.

You shouldn't get mad at him, he's just covering his ass and telling you instead of just doing it quietly. Perhaps Mycotek is being too cautios but its his right to do so. Only thing i dont like is he makes every other vendor look "dangerous".

Fd


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Re: Eliminating the "Unsafe" Vendor [Re: Fd3000]
    #768627 - 07/22/02 08:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I havn't stepped outside in 5 years cuz I met get hit by lightning!

SUPPORT THE VENDORS WHO SUPPORT THIER CUSTOMERS!


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