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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: whattheheck]
#7380624 - 09/07/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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What you need is a Remington 1187. Buy a pistol grip, sling, shell holder, tactical flashlight, and keep #4 shot in your shells.
If you have kids, please teach them how to safely use the gun. The reason kids play with there parents guns is because the parents told them not to, and that cause curiosity, and you know what they said about curiosity and the cat.
If you show them the gun, let them shoot the gun, and raise them around it, they will not be inclined to get it out and play with it while there friends little Sarah and Billy are over.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: whattheheck]
#7380649 - 09/07/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't know about anyone else, but I personally think a frag grenade is the ideal defense weapon, in a psychological sense.
If I were to break into a house in the middle of the night, and the owner turned on the lights holding a grenade, I'd probably turn around and leave. Good luck getting one though.
Or you could always get a good old viking battleaxe. Or both.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: Essen]
#7380834 - 09/07/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Having thrown a few frags in my life, I can pretty much conclude that my walls won't hold the damage it can do Or any walls for that matter. I'm also thinking nobody will believe it's a real grenade.
The battle axe will be too much weight for the wifey I'm afraid, and she's not into the Katana'.
I think she's getting to that point (almost 30) where stuff like shotguns and motorcycles are starting to sound good to her Thank god for that up tick in testosterone.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: Asante]
#7380970 - 09/07/07 08:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
If you put smaller-grain shot (#4 buckshot) in it you'll still turn an intruder inside out but you won't shoot through walls.
Not true! #4 shot out of a 12guage shotgun will penetrate multiple walls of sheetrock.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7381267 - 09/07/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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a .22 wont stop a crack head that just broke into your house.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: boundeagle]
#7381313 - 09/07/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not a .22lr but a .22 mag definitely would.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: robbyberto]
#7381396 - 09/07/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: Not a .22lr but a .22 mag definitely would.
A .22wmr doesn't offer much more stopping power than a .22lr. It barely offers more impact energy than a 30g .22lr
I wouldn't trust either in a situation where my life depended on it.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7381449 - 09/07/07 10:09 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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No, but it can do some serious damage if necessary.
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whattheheck
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7381453 - 09/07/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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And again boys, I'm thinking about my wife. Most women I've been around just didn't grow up with the, dare I say, desire, to unload on somebody who's violating. And the ones that did I tended to avoid for obvious reasons In that situation I want her to be able to access her target and feel strong just letting it fly. I thought about pistols, but we both think that a shotty would be her best bet as far as her feeling like she's got her "road legs" under her if God forbid she ever needed to let it go.
Thoughts?
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: robbyberto]
#7381493 - 09/07/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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robbyberto said: No, but it can do some serious damage if necessary.
Yeah, well so can a rock or a sharp pointy stick.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7381503 - 09/07/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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So can a fist. Don't be an asshole.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: whattheheck]
#7381510 - 09/07/07 10:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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whattheheck said: And again boys, I'm thinking about my wife. Most women I've been around just didn't grow up with the, dare I say, desire, to unload on somebody who's violating. And the ones that did I tended to avoid for obvious reasons In that situation I want her to be able to access her target and feel strong just letting it fly. I thought about pistols, but we both think that a shotty would be her best bet as far as her feeling like she's got her "road legs" under her if God forbid she ever needed to let it go.
Thoughts?
Whatever firearm you choose, the difference is going to be made in the training and confidence she has using deadly force. Whatever you choose, make sure you both have taken safety and defense courses so that when the time comes, you don't choke and die.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7381780 - 09/07/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whatever firearm you choose, the difference is going to be made in the training and confidence she has using deadly force. Whatever you choose, make sure you both have taken safety and defense courses so that when the time comes, you don't choke and die.
Excellent advice couldn't have said it better myself. I feel that practice is important and will increase the comfort level. We usually practice; firing the guns at least ; about once a month. After she was comfortable with the weapons she found she enjoyed the range time and looked forward to it. Still can't get her to enjoy cleaning the weapons or the smell of gun oil. I guess that is still a male thing?
I'm sure the gun people that read this will understand.:)
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7382663 - 09/08/07 06:21 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not true! #4 shot out of a 12guage shotgun will penetrate multiple walls of sheetrock.
Well pardon me for imposing the European standard of living in a brick house onto the USA
That kind of gypsum/fiber stuff isn't a wall. Its what you put on a wall
The least thing that in my view qualifies as a wall is cinderblocks.
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.22
.22 is for shooting rabbits. Police uses .38 and up, there's no reason to use less than they do.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7383383 - 09/08/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Appreciate the words, and yeah, we will certainly train her up right.
I've had a lot of time with weapons, no CQC or that kind of stuff like a few acquaintances of mine, but maybe that's a good thing. I swear these guys WANT intruders.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: Androctonus]
#7383384 - 09/08/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Indeed. I'm almost looking forward to this TOO much.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: Asante]
#7383393 - 09/08/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccian, how do you think Richmond and KB and all these other mass producers of homes put up neighborhoods in a few weeks? I'm serious when I say that we are going to be facing a weird situation in this country as our plastic/sheet rock/caulk homes start to fall apart.
It's a scary thing without even considering the financial aspect of the whole deal.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: Asante]
#7383416 - 09/08/07 11:39 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
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Not true! #4 shot out of a 12guage shotgun will penetrate multiple walls of sheetrock.
Well pardon me for imposing the European standard of living in a brick house onto the USA
That kind of gypsum/fiber stuff isn't a wall. Its what you put on a wall
The least thing that in my view qualifies as a wall is cinderblocks.
So Europeans have a solid brick wall separating their kitchen from their dining room?
Do they have cinderblock seperating their bedroom from bathroom?
My point is, it's far more a concern that the round is going to pass through an interior wall and hit a family member, then it going outside the house and hitting someone far away.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7383582 - 09/08/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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WakeboardrB said:
Well pardon me for imposing the European standard of living in a brick house onto the USA
That kind of gypsum/fiber stuff isn't a wall. Its what you put on a wall
The least thing that in my view qualifies as a wall is cinderblocks.
So Europeans have a solid brick wall separating their kitchen from their dining room?
Do they have cinderblock seperating their bedroom from bathroom?
My point is, it's far more a concern that the round is going to pass through an interior wall and hit a family member, then it going outside the house and hitting someone far away.
In Florida it's all cinderblock, not just the outside walls. Building construction is fairly different based on where ever you are located.
Just get a Mossberg 500 breacher and use 1-3 ought buckshot.
I just got back from a gun show. I almost bought a PS-90, maybe next time. I won't be in the states to enjoy is for a while anyway.
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Re: Shotgun for the home?? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#7383627 - 09/08/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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In the typical european house all walls are brick walls, and the outer walls are actually double brick walls with insulation between.
Many houses use cinderblock for inner walls also but the default is bricks and cement.
No wonder your houses blow apart when theres a tornado.
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So Europeans have a solid brick wall separating their kitchen from their dining room?
Generally yes.
What would such a makeshift house cost?
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