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Re: just ranting [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #756260 - 07/18/02 11:39 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I was speaking of the ez form, sans deductions and such. Really, you can have your employer take all the taxes he must and there is no penalty for not filing a return if you owe no money. On the down side, if you finaly do decide to get your money back the IRS will only go back 3 years.


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Re: just ranting [Re: mr freedom]
    #756494 - 07/18/02 01:46 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

That is incorrect. Everyone must file if their income is above a certain amount. This is from the IRS site. Where does it say you don't have to file if you owe no taxes?


Topic 351 - Who Must File?

Whether you have to file a tax return for 2001, depends, in part, on your filing status, age, and gross income. You will hear the filing status, age, and amount of gross income that would require you to file. Listen carefully until your situation is described.

Single, under 65, and your gross income was at least $7,450.
Single, 65 or older, and your gross income was at least $8,550.
Married, filing a joint return, you and your spouse were both under 65, and your gross income was at least $13,400.
Married, filing a joint return, one spouse is 65 or older, and your gross income was at least $14,300.
Married, filing a joint return, both you and your spouse were 65 or older, and your gross income was at least $15,200.
Married, filing a separate return, and your gross income was at least $2,900, regardless of your age.
Head of household, under 65, and your gross income was at least $9,550.
Head of household, 65 or older, and your gross income was at least $10,650.
Qualifying widow or widower with a dependent child, you were under 65, and your gross income was at least $10,500.
Qualifying widow or widower with a dependent child, you were 65 or older, and your gross income was at least $11,400.

Gross income includes all income you receive in the form of money, goods, property, and services that is not exempt from tax. Even though your gross income was less than the amount stated for your age and filing status, you may have to file a tax return.

You must file a tax return if you had net earnings from self?employment of $400 or more. Net earnings from self?employment is your total self?employment income less the expenses paid in operating your trade or business, multiplied by 92.35%. For more details, refer to Publication 533 (PDF), Self?Employment Tax.

If you are an individual who may be claimed as a dependent on another person's return, you are subject to specific filing requirements. Refer to the instructions in your tax package or refer to Publication 929 (PDF), Tax Rules for Children and Dependents, or Publication 501 (PDF), Exemptions, Standard Deduction, and Filing Information, for the filing requirements for dependents.

You must file a tax return if you received any amount of advance earned income credit payments from your employer during the year, or if you owe any taxes, such as social security tax and Medicare tax on tips, alternative minimum tax, tax on an Individual Retirement Account, or tax from recapture of an education credit.

Special filing requirements may apply to U.S. citizens who are residents of Puerto Rico or who have income from U.S. possessions. Order Publication 570 (PDF) for additional information. Residents of Puerto Rico should select Tax Topic 901.

Generally, you must file a tax return if you are a nonresident alien with income from sources in the United States. For more information on nonresident aliens, select Tax Topic 851.

Even if you are not required to file a tax return, you should file a return if you are due a refund.

If you did not file a return for a previous year and you were required to do so, refer to Tax Topic 153. If you need help determining which form to file, refer to Tax Topic 352.





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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: just ranting [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #756543 - 07/18/02 02:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I simply must have been misinformed then. I haven't filed a return in 12 years, this year I found that I owed more(yea me). There was no penalty at all attached to the non filing years because I owed nothing, but they did tell me that I could file for the past 3 years if I wished. I certainly have done no research on the subject, but I would have figured that, if I were in violation, I would have been given the "arm twisting" treatment most others recieve at the hands of the IRS.


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Re: just ranting [Re: mr freedom]
    #756614 - 07/18/02 02:34 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Well thanks for the retreat. If you have any doubt at all... go here:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p501.pdf

The section on who must file, page 2. End of first paragraph.

"The filing requirements apply even if you owe no tax."


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: just ranting [Re: mr freedom]
    #756620 - 07/18/02 02:36 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

And consider yourself lucky, for there is indeed a penalty for failure to file even if no tax is owed. You must have had one of the few decent IRS agents.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: just ranting [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #756748 - 07/18/02 03:31 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Perhaps because my car is 15 years old, I have no home in my name, I do all of my banking offshore and I don't really make that much money, they just said the hell with it, if he don't want a return screw him.


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Re: just ranting [Re: meatman]
    #757376 - 07/18/02 07:06 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

DOESN'T MATTER!


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