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TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes...
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The following was taken from the offical Tool website:

NEW TOOL CD IN JEOPARDY
Members of the band are seriously debating whether or not to record any new material in the future due to recent revelations concerning the close approach of a mysterious celestial object. The invader, which some maverick astronomers believe to be a brown dwarf (failed sun) and others the tenth planet of our solar system (ALA Sitchin's planet X which the ancient Sumerians called Nibiru), could be responsible for perturbations in the orbits of Uranus, Neptune as well as tipped over Pluto (and also puzzles regarding their moons, rings, etc.). It's existence and close approach to earth in 2003 e.a., if a reality, would have profound gravitational effects resulting in, among other things, a magnetic pole shift and/or possible earth-crust displacement. All this spells the prophesied "End Times" (and all just because someone was praying for a tidal wave). Although the band members all have underground shelters with adequate provisions to survive such a catastrophic event (for the richest bands of 2002 see 'Rolling Stone' magazine), without an audience to perform for there would be no motivation to record any new material. (NOTE: Please understand that I'm not saying Nibiru is coming. It is a bit suspicious, however, that observatories in many states are suddenly closed for "remodeling.")

TOOL NEWS 10 Jul 02
It has been made known to me that Frater Xaphan, while on a magical retirement somewhere in the Pacific Northwest, has been having recurrent dreams involving meteor showers and tidal waves. I wonder if this could have something to do with the much-rumored close approach of a celestial object that I reported about in the current newsletter. The interloper, due to reach its perihelion passage sometime in 2003, is believed by several researchers and astronomers to be either a Dark Star (brown dwarf) or transplutonian planet X; the Winged Disc (called Nibiru by the ancient Sumerians) that journeys through the heavens in an anomalous (retrograde) elliptical orbit as depicted on the cuneiform tablets of Mesopotamia. Others will call it Nu-Isis, after the writings of the British occultist Kenneth Grant, or associate it with the malignant red Set, but whatever we choose to call it, its arrival is thought to wreak havoc on our home planet (don't fret, the guys are taking the necessary means to survive the cataclysm, although they're not yet sure if they will follow up LaterALus with another CD due to the loss of most of the earth's population). Other indications of the 3,600 year passage and close approach of such a celestial body might be the appearance of several unknown comets in recent years, as well as the recent near-misses of asteroids, one missing hitting the earth by as little as 70,000 miles a couple of weeks ago. In typical fashion, the media reported this very close call a week after it happened. Sleep tight.
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Very interesting...
Well if this will be the last Tool tour before the "end-of-the-world", I better get my tickets now, eh?


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Edited by Adamist (07/10/02 02:59 PM)

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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yep, to think how long I've known about this and now it's all playing out more and more.....

muaahHAHahA!!!


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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and the astronomers can only identify 50% of earth threatening objects, they cant see the ones that are in orbit on the farside of the sun

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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me scared

i wish i could go see tool but i am not cool
enough.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: llib]
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Tool Page's FAQ:

". A Note About Salt

It is worth mentioning that much of what Tool says, you need to take with a HUGE grain of salt. A lot of it is made up (an interview hinting at 24-minute songs, and an April Fools' prank about a highway accident come to mind), so be careful when you choose to believe something you are being told. If anything, it is probably a good reminder that we should exercise our best judgment and not be sheep in the herd. (One of Tool's main messages seems to be that people need to think for themselves more.) After all, the falsehoods are usually well told, but do tend to seem a bit peculiarly off-the-wall. Best of luck."


But then again, they could be tellin the truth...


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Blastrid]
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T-minus 18 days til the Tool concert


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    n.  3rd generation derivitave of a combination of 'bastard' and 'blasted'.  Used as both an insult or an expletive.
    ex.  Blastrid!

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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You DO realize they're just fucking with you, right? They've done this type of shit for years, man. ;p

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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Just my word of advice for those living in California... there's not much time left. California will be a chain of islands in the near future. I'd suggest considering moving east of the sierra-nevada mountains.

Yeah perhaps I am crazy and delusional, but I am just trying to save some lives. Don't come to back two years from now and say no one warned you.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: llib]
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and the astronomers can only identify 50% of earth threatening objects, they cant see the ones that are in orbit on the farside of the sun

Unlike stoned out musicians who can?


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Blastrid]
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Forget Tool
read some of the astronomy work
read about the "swift-tuttle" comet, date or hit or near miss is something lik 2226
dont quote me, do an internet search
but intrestingly, an italian atsronomer, forget his name, studied the orbit sof earththreatening objects for 50 years, his initial statement that was it wold hit earth august 12th 2012...he was ostracized and ridiculed by many european government and the scientific community, the date coincides with the year of teh mayan prophevies, just not the month, after pressure he chnaged his mind

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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no no, ...tripped out musicians....yeah...


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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Yeah perhaps I am crazy and delusional, but I am just trying to save some lives. Don't come to back two years from now and say no one warned you.

Try to stay on track with your reply.

There have been doomsday warnings for thousands of years. I personally have witnessed many groups of people telling me similar things during different periods in my life. So far, not one has panned out. (Kahoutek, Harmonic Convergence, et al).

If it is impossible for me to confirm your statement, why should I uproot myself from surf and bikini babes to move? What makes your pronouncement believable to a relative stranger?



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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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Just my word of advice for those living in California... there's not much time left. California will be a chain of islands in the near future. I'd suggest considering moving east of the sierra-nevada mountains.

What leads you to believe this? People have been saying this for years and I have never believed it. Eventually all land masses will drift apart and form new shapes, etc. but why should I believe that California will fall into the Ocean?

Actually, I am being serious, I respect your opinion but I also don't believe this so I would like to know what makes you think this?


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Swami]
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I'm not trying to get you to leave your little niche, just pay attention to the increase in disasters is all. They have been increasing steadily for years. It is widely accepted that california is overdue for the "big one"..just keep your eyes open.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: llib]
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Survive 2012
2012 Unlimited

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Dante606]
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Did anyone hear about the asteroid that skimmed by Earth at 70,000 miles just a few weeks ago? We did not even know it was there until a few days before it passed.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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yeah i saw that.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Shroomalicious]
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What leads you to believe this?

The aliens told me

Begin flames/cynicism and laughter here

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: llib]
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...the date coincides with the year of teh mayan prophevies

Umm, there are NO Mayan prophecies on record.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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lol....everyone knows aliens don't exist! you're so delussional! if aliens were out there, they would talk to me too!

heh just foolin.


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If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on.you'll see devils tearing your life away.
But...if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels
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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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I am not going to belittle anyone...

Did the aliens give you any idea what the cause would be?


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Shroomalicious]
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Earthquakes. Big Ones. Magnitudes up to 15-17

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Eightball]
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Aliens do exist, I married one. We're a raising two beautiful alien hybrids (my kids are definately not normal humans). We do live in California, but my alien wife has convinced me to move to the San Bernadino mountains. We will be in our new home in about a month.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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I was shown something big is going to happen in the next decade, though nothing very specific (other than floods).
All I know is that I was told when it's time, I will know before-hand if I listen closely. I think my role is more geared towards after this event happens, and if it happens next spring, it will coincide with my 18th birthday. I truely feel my life is directly aligned with the "cataclysm" so that things will all fall into place when the time comes.
I recognize beliefs can be dangerous, and so I am not putting much weight into the Nibiru warnings... yet. But it would be useful to entertain the possibility if such a thing did come to pass.


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Edited by Adamist (07/10/02 05:46 PM)

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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I too have been shown the possible scenario of many dramatic Earth changes. While I do not center my life around these, one thing that is stressed is to keep your eyes open, watch the changes, and be prepared.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: KeepAskingTime]
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yep, to think how long I've known about this and now it's all playing out more and more.....



ditto




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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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...though nothing very specific (other than floods).
Yeah "floods", that is VERY specific!

, and if it happens next spring, it will coincide with my 18th birthday.
Does the Universe key important events around your birthday? And if it happens the spring after, it will coincide with your 19th birthday. Wow!


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Swami]
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Does the Universe key important events around your birthday?
Nay, oh Great Swam!
Rather my soul seems to coincide my current incarnation around important events happening in the universe.


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Edited by Adamist (07/10/02 07:44 PM)

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Swami]
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Does the Universe key important events around your birthday? And if it happens the spring after, it will coincide with your 19th birthday. Wow!

LOL... I have to agree with this one. A birthday is just any other day. I'm sure the universe does not keep track of birthdays, especially not with the same time scale that we humans have developed.
To think that important events are being keyed around your birthday sounds like you have a god module inside your head or something. I mean, it's good to think that you will be someone important who will impact the world in some way, but it's unhealthy to think the universe is centered around you IMO


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Swami]
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Yeah "floods", that is VERY specific!

Well... I've gotten a bit more detail on the floods aspect. Whether it is set in stone or just a possible scenario has yet to be determined (I lean towards the latter) Here is my list:

- Massive tidal waves hit and inundate practically every coastline in the world
- India is completely submerged
- Western Australia is submerged (3/4ths of the continent)
- Florida sinks
- The Great Lakes become The Great Lake

Details fuzzy from this point
That's my flood aspect

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: RebelSteve33]
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Maybe the universe doesnt key in events around peoples celebratory "birthday"...but whos to say the universe didnt have some pull in what day someone was actually born so that he could aid in whatever universal, or cosmic struggle that might happen? Im not saying this could be one person, but this could be a number of people that were chosen to help, aid, and rebuild just incase something cataclysmic were to happen. You would need a variety of different types of people, from intelligent to creative, from cautius to the fearless, to rebuild a society to the way it should be.
Im not saying that this Niburu event is going to happen. Im just going to do what i do best. Observe, then rationalize. But if things get crazy, im running to higher ground.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: thePatient]
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there is not gonna be a fooken asteroid, or damn 10th planet heading our way and disrupting our solar system and what not. These stories all originate from NASA, one of the biggest fear mongers in America. How do you think they get their funds? They gotta say shit is gonna fall from the sky so people will demand governments to dish out the money to them. My prediction is that one day, the is going to be a phony alien invasion, it worked in the 50's with radio (war of the worlds) and with such mass media available today it will be too easy (escpecially with the alien commericialization going on now) hehe, call me crazy but don't believe it when u see holographic images of spaceships over cities beamed down from the ISS

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: chodamunky]
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LOL, and they call me crazy...

j/k choda, I enjoy hearing other's opinions


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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it will be around your 28th birthday

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: llib]
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Haha...
"Saturn ascends, choose one or ten."

December, 2012 will be close to my 28th birthday;
28 is one of the years Saturn "returns", bringing "obstacles and change".


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Edited by Adamist (07/11/02 05:35 PM)

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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From www.newsmax.com:

"FEMA, the federal agency charged with disaster preparedness, is engaged in a crash effort to prepare for multiple mass destruction attacks on U.S. cities - including the creation of sprawling temporary cities to handle millions of displaced persons, NewsMax has learned.
FEMA is readying for nuclear, biological and chemical attacks against U.S. cities, including the possibility of multiple attacks with mass destruction weapons.

The agency has already notified vendors, contractors and consultants that it needs to be prepared to handle the logistics of aiding millions of displaced Americans who will flee from urban areas that may be attacked.

The agency plans to create emergency, makeshift cities that could house hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans who may have to flee their urban homes if their cities are attacked.

Ominously, FEMA has been given a deadline of having the cities ready to go by January 2003; in about six months.

FEMA is currently seeking bids from major real estate management firms, and plans to name three firms in the near future to handle the logistics and planning for these temporary cities.

FEMA officials have told these firms they already have tents and trailers ordered. The tents and trailers would provide shelter for displaced populations."

Could these "terrorist attacks" be a cover-up for earth changes predicted to arise in 2003? It would be pretty convenient for the government to have a large portion of the population living in cities directly under their control.

Excerpt from Faaip de Oiad:
"The disasters that are coming, they, the military, I'm sorry, the government knows about them. And there's a lot of safe areas in this world that they could begin moving the population to now. They are not! They want those major population centers wiped out so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable."


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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That's some pretty scary stuff


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: FreakQlibrium]
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- Massive tidal waves hit and inundate practically every coastline in the world
- India is completely submerged
- Western Australia is submerged (3/4ths of the continent)
- Florida sinks
- The Great Lakes become The Great Lake


Sounds like that Morgan Freeman movie Deep Impact.


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"Memories of high speeds when the cops crash, As I laugh pushin the gas while my glocks blast" -RIP Tupac

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Shroomalicious]
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Learn to swim learn to swim
Learn to swim learn to swim
Learn to swim learn to swim
Learn to swim learn to swim


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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Good find, Adamist... It seems very fishy to me!

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it oughta be.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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Excerpt from Faaip de Oiad:
"The disasters that are coming, they, the military, I'm sorry, the government knows about them. And there's a lot of safe areas in this world that they could begin moving the population to now. They are not! They want those major population centers wiped out so that the few that are left will be more easily controllable."

The caller of that message later called back and admitted it was a prank...still a great album.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Danimal]
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I think the earth will massivly corrude into tiny balls of orange juice and shave a crease of bubbled drillage to both miles of the measurement.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Danimal]
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The caller of that message later called back and admitted it was a prank...still a great album.

Really? Where did you hear that?


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: ]
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In reply to:
- Massive tidal waves hit and inundate practically every coastline in the world
- India is completely submerged
- Western Australia is submerged (3/4ths of the continent)
- Florida sinks
- The Great Lakes become The Great Lake



How About Patagonia (argentina) I am thinking to move back soon?


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Danimal]
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Seems reasonable that the first thing the MIB would do would be to call back and say it was a joke. Doesn't mean anything. There is real terror in his voice.


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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"Far beyond the solar system's nine known planets, a body as massive as Mars may once have been part of our planetary system -- and it might still be there. -Science News of April 7, 2001

The article reports the conclusions of an international team of astronomers who have studied an unusual comet discovered last year, designated 2000 CR/105. It follows a vast elliptical orbit around our Sun; an orbit that takes it way out to some 4.5 billion kilometers from the Sun, and brings it back at its closest to the Sun to the vicinity of Neptune; it is an orbit whose period takes roughly 3,300 years; (according to Sky&Telescope News of April 5, 2001).

"Such an oblong orbit is usually a sign that an object has come under the gravitational influence of a massive body," wrote R. Cowen in Science News. Was this the gravitational pull of Neptune? In a study to be published in the Journal Icarus, the team of astronomers (led by Brett Gladman of the Observatoire de la C?te d'Azur in Nice, France), after analyzing all the possibilities, does not think so. An alternative solution, they say, is that the comet's orbit could be the handiwork of an as-yet unseen planet; -- as massive as Mars -- "that would have to lie some 200 AU from the Sun," in the so-called Kuiper Belt of cometary and other planetary debris. This would also explain "why many members of the Belt have orbits that angle away from the plane in which the nine known planets orbit the Sun."

"Undoubtedly, something massive knocked the hell out of the Belt," Harold F. Levison of the Southwest Research institute in Boulder, Colorado, told the magazine. "The question is whether it is still there now."

"Comet's Course Hints at Mystery Planet" was how the journal Science headlined the discovery news in its issue of 6 April 2001. The special report, written by the Dutch astronomer Govert Schilling, summed up the findings in the following lead paragraph:

"A Supercomet following an unexpectedly far-flung path around the sun suggests that an unidentified planet once lurked in the outermost reaches of the solar system, an international team of astronomers reports. What's more, the mysterious object may still be there."


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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The caller of that message later called back and admitted it was a prank...still a great album.

Really? Where did you hear that?

http://toolshed.down.net in the FAQ section. As well, I'm pretty sure it was mentioned in at least one of the newsletters from www.toolband.com Also, if you look around www.artbell.com long enough, I'm sure you'll find it.

Peace folks

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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Do a search on a comet called the "Swift-tuttle" comet". I believe this is a comet that a famous italian astronomer, dont recall his nam eoffhnad, was reportedly to have analyzed it sorbit and stated intially it had a high lielyhood of hittin earth in the year , I think 2026 about august the 12th. He was ridiculed by his government and others and later retracted his statement saying he was in error. This guy apparently has diagramed the orbit of all known "earth-threatening" objects for the last 50 years.

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: llib]
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I just read something on Aol News about a huge asteroid that could possibly cross paths with the Earth in February, 2019...


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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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goddamn how many asteroids are heading twords earth...

Edited by AcursedRedDragon (07/24/02 04:04 PM)

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Re: TOOL, Nibiru, Earth Changes... [Re: Adamist]
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I just read something on Aol News about a huge asteroid that could possibly cross paths with the Earth in February, 2019...

Yeah, Little Shroom made a post about it in OTD earlier. Here is a link to an article about the asteroid.


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