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money question
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so my friend already has a foolproof method of moving ounces of bud cross country in a few days. however my friend is worried about 2 things.

1. If similar packages arriving at a residence on a weekly basis is any cause for suspicion?

2. If the deposit of anywhere from 400-1500 dollars and then withdrawal of that money on a weekly basis is enough to raise suspicion?

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Re: money question [Re: jasonjasonjason]
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u really should not deposit cash earned without the system, bank accounts are easily trace able, if it's kept out of the system then its harder for the tax system to find out.


this is hardly the place to raise such a question however


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Re: money question [Re: veda_sticks]
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You can't deposit thousands of dollars worth of cash without arrousing suspicion.


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Re: money question [Re: jasonjasonjason]
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this should get moved to the security forum


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Re: money question [Re: veda_sticks]
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cash in the bank is bad, the IRS are gonna ask questions, tax evasion, money laundering and drug trafficking, way to hit the trifecta :smile:

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Re: money question [Re: jasonjasonjason]
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well then...what should i suggest my friend do? he really does not like the idea of sending large amounts of cash in the mail.

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Re: money question [Re: jasonjasonjason]
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You really shouldn't send bud in the mail. They check for that- and using the mail to commit a crime is a serious crime all by itself.


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Re: money question [Re: Dr_T]
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First off, my friend is the one sending bud in the mail, not me.
Secondly, he has mailed marijuana, hash, mushrooms, MDMA, and LSD using the same method everytime. (Obviously with smell precautions on the marijuana and hash), he leaves a fake return address and leaves no fingerprints on any of the material in or on the package.

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Re: money question [Re: jasonjasonjason]
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:shrug:
Whatever. As long as you aren't sending it or receiving it, you won't be the one getting buttraped.


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Re: money question [Re: Dr_T]
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Problem isn't just with the return address.

When you mail it to that house, the same house, as you said, then if one gets busted, they're going to be watching all the other ones and will likely try to bust the house it is being sent to.

With cash though... You could always launder it, or if you're not up to that, then you could simply use something like E-Gold. But that makes for more inconvenience. I don't do what you're doing, but I've thought a lot about how it could be done. Thing that worries me is that I am not familiar with security tracking of letters.

Maybe you could set up an eBay business, then parcels coming and going from your place would not raise suspicion.

I am not up to talking right now though, but we do need to know more about what you're doing.

Are you sending to many addresses, or few? Are you receiving cash as payment to your single address?

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Re: money question [Re: Stizzle]
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Stizzle said:
You can't deposit thousands of dollars worth of cash without arrousing suspicion.



Up to $3,000 last time I heard. It used to be up to $10,000 before it has to get reported. Changed it for some patriot act ot other terrorism related bullshit. If you need to pay your bills with illegally generated cash use money orders. But the same $3,000 rule still applies. If you need to buy more than $3,000 worth of money orders in one day buy them at different locations otherwise you will have to fill out a form in order to get them. The up side to the lowering of the ammount is they just drastically incerased the number of transactions they have to investigate which may help you in the long run because there is probobally still the same number of people to investigate the transactions as when it was $10,000. Making it more likely that more things will slip pass the radar of a burocrat.


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Re: money question [Re: allreadyused]
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allreadyused said:
Stizzle said:
You can't deposit thousands of dollars worth of cash without arrousing suspicion.



Up to $3,000 last time I heard.  It used to be up to $10,000 before it has to get reported.  Changed it for some patriot act ot other terrorism related bullshit.  If you need to pay your bills with illegally generated cash use money orders.  But the same $3,000 rule still applies.  If you need to buy more than $3,000 worth of money orders in one day buy them at different locations otherwise you will have to fill out a form in order to get them.  The up side to the lowering of the ammount is they just drastically incerased the number of transactions they have to investigate which may help you in the long run because there is probobally still the same number of people to investigate the transactions as when it was $10,000.  Making it more likely that more things will slip pass the radar of a burocrat.



At $3,000 identification and other things relating to you are recorded. At $10,000, you have to fill out paperwork with the IRS and is subject to charge in some cases. :wink:

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Re: money question [Re: MycoThrill]
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i've heard of people sending thousands of dollars through the mail using magazines and carbon paper. Obviously, use the largest bills possible, avoid using overnight delivery, mail with other things (think care package), and take the precautions already taken.

Or, go w/ green dot or money orders or buy a fake ID and western union.

yos-

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Re: money question [Re: Yoschie99]
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Yoschie99 said:
i've heard of people sending thousands of dollars through the mail using magazines and carbon paper.  Obviously, use the largest bills possible, avoid using overnight delivery, mail with other things (think care package), and take the precautions already taken.

Or, go w/ green dot or money orders or buy a fake ID and western union.

yos-



Fake ID would still be hard. Whenever sending a transaction over that amount you still have to have your DL/ID and a social security card. It's minimum requirements and cannot be skipped. Plus you still have to fill out a page worth of the 'Cash Transaction Record' :wink:


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Re: money question [Re: jasonjasonjason]
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Noobs... Banks can file a SAR (suspicious activity report) on you for almost any reason regardless of the transaction amount.

I'd have to check, but I think transactions of $1000+ are also reported to the IRS.

Anyways, use money orders. They are the new currency, since you can easily get them in $1000 denominations, unlike cash. Otherwise use something like e-gold, then you're not even tied to the falling dollar.


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Re: money question [Re: fastfred]
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Don't use a checking or savings account, use a Safe Deposit box at the bank. :smile:


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Re: money question [Re: fastfred]
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fastfred said:
Noobs... Banks can file a SAR (suspicious activity report) on you for almost any reason regardless of the transaction amount.

I'd have to check, but I think transactions of $1000+ are also reported to the IRS.

Anyways, use money orders. They are the new currency, since you can easily get them in $1000 denominations, unlike cash. Otherwise use something like e-gold, then you're not even tied to the falling dollar.


-FF



Fred it's anything 10k or over they have to file a SAR on and send it in.


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Re: money question [Re: pinkfloydms]
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Well, according to Wikipedia:

"FinCEN requires a SAR report to be filed by a financial institution when the financial institution suspects: insider abuse by an employee; violations of law aggregating over $5,000 or more where a subject can be identified; violations of law aggregating over $25,000 or more regardless of a potential subject; transactions aggregating $5,000 or more that involve potential money laundering or violations of the Bank Secrecy Act; computer intrusion; or when a financial institution knows that a customer is operating as an unlicensed money services business."


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Re: money question [Re: AnotherDimension]
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Wiki is wrong, I worked for car lots for 5 years, the only time we were required to file a SAR with the IRS is when it was 10k or over. They can give you $9,999 and be fine.


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so yeah:
- 'sex' five times
- once with a man
- once with a cadaver
- and thrice with actual women(all of which were prostitutes)
Best story ever!

www.panicstream.com :thumbup:

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Re: money question [Re: pinkfloydms]
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> Wiki is wrong, I worked for car lots for 5 years

Nope. Wiki is correct. The law was recently changed:

From the US Treasury web site, http://www.occ.treas.gov/sar.htm:
Quote:
Under 12 CFR 21, national banks are required to report known or suspected criminal offenses, at specified thresholds, or transactions over $5,000 that they suspect involve money laundering or violate the Bank Secrecy Act. Similar regulations by other regulators apply to other financial institutions.



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