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OfflineSartori64
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Please identify this LBM
    #7348292 - 08/29/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)
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Hi there,

I have an identification request from Southern Finland.

Habitat: near forest, suburbia
County Uusimaa,Municipality Vantaa,country Finland,
altitude?
Growing conditions Growing in sporadic patches in a variable grass lawn
soil, cold seeded lawn using good humus placed directly on existing lawn in April (earlier lawn more meadow than lawn, clay soil)
Characteristics of the gills
color,coffee and cream
gills not attached, gills widely interspersed (see pictures)
pores?
Characteristics of the stem
length 1 to 3 cm),
diameter 2mm,
color slightly lighter than cap,
texture straw-like,
hollow/thin/
Characteristics of the cap
diameter widest 1.3 cm,
color dark brown when fresh, straw coloured when dry
texture rubbery, slightly glabrous when fresh
conical with small nipple when young, flattening somewhat with age
Spore print color chocolate brown
Color that the mushroom bruises - darker, no blue coloration noticeable
Scent of the mushroom: when picked, pleasant, inviting...
Anything else you might find important: the majority of these were picked near to a well established Fir tree near to which Silver Birch also grow
Some older specimens have small colonies of small white maggots 1 mm in size, springtails and what looked like an amber coloured spider.

Please share your wisdom so that the mushrooms might share theirs!

Seeker
Heck - how do I upload my pix from my desktop (duh!)


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Re: Please identify this LBM [Re: Sartori64]
    #7348367 - 08/29/07 12:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Please resize your pics (6 megs is way bigger than necessary), upload them somewhere (e.g. photobucket.com) and include them in your post.

Having said that, those are some sort of inactive panaeolus, possibly pan. foenisecii.

Thanks for taking the time to put up a really detailed description, qualitatively good photos and for taking a spore print, wish there were more noobs like you :wink:


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Re: Please identify this LBM [Re: koraks]
    #7348383 - 08/29/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)




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Re: thanks! [Re: koraks]
    #7350453 - 08/30/07 12:24 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hi,

And thanks for the description props and the possible ID - I checked out your suggestion and it looks plausible - one particularly thorough article on the species appears here in Erowid:

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_article4.shtml

including reports of accidental ingestions by children. It seems that it can contain psylocin in small traces but that it is variable. Guess I should look further afield than my own backyard - this  country is after all teeming with mushrooms at this time of the year. I  even had an Amanita Muscaria pop up out front of the house about a month ago but I'm not too interested on going berserk in viking style :smile:

Apologies for the oversized doc file - main intent was getting the file to be viewed and Word was my only alternative - will consider your advice in future.

Thanks again


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Re: thanks! [Re: Sartori64]
    #7352601 - 08/30/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

As I've said before, foes aren't active in mice. All reports of them containing psilocybin are anecdotal at best, and it has never been verified that pan foes contain even trace amounts of psilocybin or psilocin, or any other hallucinogen.

Most likely, someone mistook pan foes for pan subbs, as they commonly grow side by side, and that's what caused the hallucinations in children. Or the kids had vivid imaginations, and the parents were retarded.


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