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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: zorbman]
    #7345651 - 08/28/07 08:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Zorb, I was just going to make a post about this. I saw the headline on yahoo.com and said "Oh, this guy HAS to be Republican." For some strange reason, I just now heard about this Larry Craig situation. Or maybe it's just hard to keep track of how many gay republicans have been outed.

Oh, and I will definitely say that if you're Republican and you're gay, you're a hypocrite, no matter if you've personally pushed anti-gay legislation or not. It's like if a member of the KKK knocked up a black girl. You can't say that he's not a hypocrite just because you've never heard of any specific instance in which he has displayed racial hatred. If you're gay or if you like any illegal drugs and you're Republican, you're a hypocrite. There, I said it.

Hey, what's the gay Republican tally? Here are the ones I can remember........

  • Mark Gannon
  • Mark Foley
  • Ted Haggard
  • Bob Allen
  • Larry Craig


Did I miss anybody?






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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Learyfan]
    #7345663 - 08/28/07 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Oh, and I will definitely say that if you're Republican and you're gay, you're a hypocrite, no matter if you've personally pushed anti-gay legislation or not. It's like if a member of the KKK knocked up a white girl.




You mean black girl. I'm sure our friends in the KKK knock up white girls all the time.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: it stars saddam]
    #7345671 - 08/28/07 08:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha, yeah, black girl. KKK knocks up black girl. Let me change that................






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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Learyfan]
    #7345792 - 08/28/07 08:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So if you are gay you cannot be a Republican? How do you figure that?

Are all the gays at this site http://gaypatriot.org/ hypocrites, then?



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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Phred]
    #7345806 - 08/28/07 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So if you are gay you cannot be a Republican? How do you figure that?

Are all the gays at this site http://gaypatriot.org/ hypocrites, then?



Phred




i think it just boils down to how he voted, no? if he voted against gay legislaton, he is a hypocrite. if he voted yes for legislation, then the only wrong thing he did here was committ a lewd public act. i don't understand what is so difficult for people to understand about this stuff...sometimes i think people try to see more to a situation than there really is.

EDIT: this wasn't addressed to you Phred. more of a universal bitching of everyone reading too much into this incident.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Phred]
    #7345929 - 08/28/07 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah they are. The underlying message from the Republicans in the 2004 election was "fuck them faggots". Anyone who is gay and stands in line with that bullshit is a hypocrite. I'm just sayin'. Think about it. It's funny like a jewish nazi is funny. It's irony on a base level. It's a hoot.

I love it when these assholes are outed. Hearing that another gay Republican has been outed like like Christmas to me. It gives me the same feeling I had as a child when I was about to open that first present underneath that tree. It's even more like Christmas in that once the package has been torn off, it's great, but it isn't a surprise. Only a repressed homosexual would hate gays as much as Republicans. So it isn't surprising to find that these men have been riding side-saddle.





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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Learyfan]
    #7345944 - 08/28/07 09:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you're gay or if you like any illegal drugs and you're Republican, you're a hypocrite. There, I said it.

and you're either using a different definition of the word 'hypocrite' than the rest of the english speaking world, or you are using faulty reasoning.

here: if larry craig has condemned homosexuals, and the claims made about his orientation are true, then he is a hypocrite. that's how it works.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: wilshire]
    #7346004 - 08/28/07 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In calling himself a Republican, he has aligned himself with the party of gay bashing rednecks. He represents homophobic ignorance as a member of the GOP. He's working against everything that he is. So he's a hypocrite.






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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Learyfan]
    #7346037 - 08/28/07 10:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In calling himself a Republican, he has aligned himself with the party of gay bashing rednecks.

are all republicans gay bashing rednecks or not? is larry craig?

simple, simple logic here.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Learyfan]
    #7346041 - 08/28/07 10:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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In calling himself a Republican, he has aligned himself with the party of gay bashing rednecks. He represents homophobic ignorance as a member of the GOP. He's working against everything that he is. So he's a hypocrite.









You are ignorant. There is nothing about being gay that says you have to be stupid. Vilifying Jeff Gannon is homophobic. You're just jealous you don't have his package. In your mouth.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7346055 - 08/28/07 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I may be jealous, but that doesn't mean that you don't have to be stupid to be a Republican.






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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Learyfan]
    #7346098 - 08/28/07 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Astonishingly enough, the stupid Republicans manage to hold a roughly half share of control in spite of being outnumbered about 2 to 1 by true retards.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: zorbman]
    #7346110 - 08/28/07 10:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I do not like Bill Clinton, but............

Check this out -Larry Craig 1999 on Bill Clinton.  He calls Clinton a "nasty, bad, naughty boy" because of the Monica affair.  Hypocrite!  :lol:






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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: zorbman]
    #7346324 - 08/28/07 11:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

cripes, do you really not understand this issue at hand at all? people like you are reasons I rarely visit this forum...the stupidity is almost asphyxiating =.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Syle]
    #7346462 - 08/28/07 11:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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EDIT: this wasn't addressed to you Phred. more of a universal bitching of everyone reading too much into this incident.




On the contrary...isn't this becoming a pattern? Politicians who support policies that treat homosexuals as less than citizens getting caught soliciting gay sex? I seem to recall reading about such incidences in Savage Love more than once over the last year or so.

If this is part of a pattern than shit we aren't reading into it too much at all. Gay hating laws don't make any fucking sense, until something like this happens and you realize that the only reason people attack homosexuality is because they are in the closet and are, therefore, self hating. Guys like this should be metaphorically burned at the stake for all to see.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Syle]
    #7346516 - 08/29/07 12:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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cripes, do you really not understand this issue at hand at all? people like you are reasons I rarely visit this forum...the stupidity is almost asphyxiating =.




I understand that Senator Craig has exposed himself as a self-serving hypocrite.

What more is there to grasp?


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: zorbman]
    #7347068 - 08/29/07 04:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Senator Craig is a good American.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Syle]
    #7347233 - 08/29/07 07:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> i think it just boils down to how he voted, no? if he voted against gay legislaton, he is a hypocrite.

I don't think this is enough. I am not arguing that the guy is a hypocrite or not; I don't have enough information to make a judgment. However, I don't think one has to be hypocritical to be gay and vote against gay legislation. For example, I am anti-abortion, but I would never vote in favor of anti-abortion legislation. Does that make me a hypocrite? No, as long as I am clear about my position. As a representative, my job is to represent the people, not to legislate my own moral values or just the people that voted for me. Again, I am not defending these guys, only saying that there is more to being a hypocrite than being caught in the act of gayness and being republican or even being gay and voting against gay legislation (whatever gay legislation happens to be).


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: Seuss]
    #7347238 - 08/29/07 07:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Good point. The "anti-gay" legislation he voted for might have been of the "hate-crime" type that grants special privileges to certain groups and that is unconstitutional.

However, I find it funny how there have been rumors of his sexuality for years and then this incident happens and he claims, "I'm not gay". Sounds kind of fishy to me.


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Re: Republican Senator Larry Craig arrested in men's bathroom [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7347333 - 08/29/07 08:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> and he claims, "I'm not gay". Sounds kind of fishy to me.

Yep... agree with you there.

It is unfortunate that our society has created such a stigma towards homosexuality that people with homosexual tendencies would vote in a homophobic manner in order to avoid being associated with gay culture. You can almost feel the conflict in these guys; supporting "anti-gay" legislation trying to prove to themselves that they aren't gay. Oh well, I guess it gives us something unimportant to think about rather than pondering all the lives lost in the middle east.


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