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weird pinnings
    #7340631 - 08/27/07 01:43 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I just don't get this whole mushroom thing. Setup a FC with the FAE holes, perlite, and temp gauge, and put two PFtek cakes in it with a shitty, last minute un-pasturized/un-sterilized casing substrate (50/50). I gingerly fan the cakes with my electric fan and mist too 3-4 times daily. Guess which one is pinning now? : the casing. And it's pinning in small clusters where the mycelium broke through.

It's been 10 days and now sign of pinning on the cakes, just lots of knots and spikey rhizomorphic growth.

meh.


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Re: weird pinnings [Re: blackguy]
    #7340648 - 08/27/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

but hey, at least 12 pins on casing


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Re: weird pinnings [Re: blackguy]
    #7340675 - 08/27/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

If your misting your cakes 3-4 times a day your probably misting too much. What are your temps? How much light are you giving? If all else fails, make a casing out of your cakes, since you seem to have that down a little.

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Re: weird pinnings [Re: blackguy]
    #7340682 - 08/27/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Give it a couple more days im sure they will start pinning like crazy.. You got a 12/12 lighting?

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Re: weird pinnings [Re: DiabloSmurf]
    #7340764 - 08/27/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

cakes are harder to pin than casings in my humble opinion.

A cake is literally nothing more than a piece of fully colonized substrate shaped into a cylinder and left out to pin. Because in order to form pins, the mycelium colony needs steady humidity in the 92-99% range, this means you have to produce that much humidity in a chamber while attempting to control temps and frequent fresh-air exchange.

Casings are a fully colonized substrate that has a nice, even, moist humidity blanket on top of it which means we only need our humidity to hover around the 80-85% range. And while that only seems like ten points in the grand scheme of things, it is INFINITELY easier to maintain.

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Keep a handle on your humidity, don't neglect your need for fresh air and you'll pin those cakes soon enough.


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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.

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Re: weird pinnings [Re: mycocurious]
    #7340876 - 08/27/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

thanks for the input, I guess I'll turn the cakes into casings. Even if it goes wrong, it won't be that much of a loss I guess.


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Re: weird pinnings [Re: blackguy]
    #7340942 - 08/27/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

read up on creating a substrate out of coco-coir (pet stores) and used coffee grounds (free from starbucks) as well as how to pasteurize the substrate mixture.

If you put two cakes inside a gladware oventray along with a quart or two of that substrate and then case that with some jiffy mix or similar type casing material you'll have a much better yield.

but the key is in the research.


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- How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates
- How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier
- How Myco-Curious Builds An Automated Greenhouse
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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.

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