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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Synesthetic]
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Why do you think the Nazi empire would have collapsed even without our devastating assaults on its greatest strongholds? The only other power who gave them any significant trouble was the Russians and all they did was defend their own turf. The rest of Europe was caught with their pants down and probably would have ultimately fallen if not for us. Would you call unification under a totalitarian regime seeking extermination of all non-Aryans "peace"?

Of course, history can be interpreted in any way you'd like, and we can ask what-if questions until we're blue in the face. But you, my friend, are a perfect example of how under-appreciated America's role in the world can be by her own people.

Edited by Tchan909 (04/28/09 02:05 AM)

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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A lot of countries sacrificed a lot of lives in that war. I reckon it was a team effort rather than one country saving everyone else.

Edited by DimensionX (04/28/09 02:11 AM)

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
Why do you think the Nazi empire would have collapsed even without our devastating assaults on its greatest strongholds? The only other power who gave them any significant trouble was the Russians and all they did was defend their own turf.



How can you forget Britain? They sacrificed everything they had to hold back the Germans, and they can proudly say that they haven't been invaded by a foreign force since the year the US was founded. I'd say that's pretty good for a small island. The Russians, on the other hand, were invaded, and just relied on the cold winter to stop the Wehrmacht.


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: zouden]
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christo freaks young and old 60/70%

gun nuts,+ mental health and prison population 10%

faggoty prep douch-fags 5%


Scenester dickthirst females 2%

cops 1%

armedforces 1%

Cool people 1%

.2% whores


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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What really fucks me off is when you guys claim that you won the war. You didn't even join the war until 1942 and even engaged in trade with the Nazis at several points before you joined in.

The British Commonwealth and France entered the war to protect Poland after the German invasion, as a result of protection treaties. America stayed 'neutral' until Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. 

Seriously, its not even funny. Yeah we needed your help, but no way do you deserve the credit that you take.


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Cepheus]
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US sold both sides loads of oil weapons and shit then came in at the end and took all the technology produced by the war effort.

Double whammy.

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Cepheus]
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Cepheus said:
What really fucks me off is when you guys claim that you won the war. You didn't even join the war until 1942 and even engaged in trade with the Nazis at several points before you joined in.

The British Commonwealth and France entered the war to protect Poland after the German invasion, as a result of protection treaties. America stayed 'neutral' until Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. 

Seriously, its not even funny. Yeah we needed your help, but no way do you deserve the credit that you take.



How strange... 1942 seems like the year that the war tipped into the allies favor :lol:


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: RandalFlagg]
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well being non-aussie,yankees are :cool: i spose
:bonghit:

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: twighead]
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Well no shit, we just gained a fresh stock of millions of trained soldiers, as opposed to our soldiers, a lot of which were inexperienced, who had been deadlocked in the trenches with the axis for the last 3 years.

It doesn't surprise me at all that the fact that a superpower with a massive freshly trained army which had not been involved in any combat and then joins our side in the middle of the war, tips the war in our favour.


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:sun: "...and I know that I have to keep breathing, as tomorrow the sun will rise, who knows what the tide will bring?" :sun:

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Cepheus]
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Cepheus said:
Well no shit, we just gained a fresh stock of millions of trained soldiers, as opposed to our soldiers, a lot of which were inexperienced, who had been deadlocked in the trenches with the axis for the last 3 years.

It doesn't surprise me at all that the fact that a superpower with a massive freshly trained army which had not been involved in any combat and then joins our side in the middle of the war, tips the war in our favour.



What?
Whose soldiers were stuck in the trenches in WWII for 3 years???


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: twighead]
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The allies' soldiers (British & French, mainly) before the Americans joined in.

The war started in 1939, you didn't join in till 1942.


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:sun: "...and I know that I have to keep breathing, as tomorrow the sun will rise, who knows what the tide will bring?" :sun:

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Cepheus]
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And France was overrun and very very few British soliders were in foot combat at the time of 1942, Britan was simply waiting for a nazi invasion.

The US and Soviets were instrumental in Europe - but don't forget the US nearly single-handedly defeated the Japanese as well.


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: twighead]
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America, Fuck yeah.

:suicide:


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"I only ever hope to reach equilibrium, in Nature's matrix, in line with the meridian" ~ Jehst

:sun: "...and I know that I have to keep breathing, as tomorrow the sun will rise, who knows what the tide will bring?" :sun:

Free Spore Ring Europe
Send any spare spore prints you might have and help the distribution :grin:

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: zouden]
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Tchan909 said:
Why do you think the Nazi empire would have collapsed even without our devastating assaults on its greatest strongholds? The only other power who gave them any significant trouble was the Russians and all they did was defend their own turf.



Because every other empire in the history of the world has collapsed due to a combination of strong internal problems and foolishly going to war over and over again.

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Phish_Dude]
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Phish_Dude said:
Alan Rockefeller said:
Quote:
oh, and our lack of culture, I also blame the immigrants.



I agree 100%.  The only good Americans are Native Americans.

The rest are just honkeys, they should go back to England where they belong.



Well I'm French, but I'd gladly go back to Quebec.:yesnod:



You lived in Quebec?

In Montreal and outside Montreal like St.Hyacinthe and Rimouski etc they don't speak French, they speak hardcore Quebecois en maudit tabarnak!!!

:lol:


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Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!
Tohu Tehom Theli Than Leviathan Tanin'iver Taninsam!


There exists one lie that is the absolute worst. A lie that has successfully infiltrated many of the Western governments. This lie is Christianity, and it must be fought in every way, shape and form. Burn the churches and kill the priests. The abomination that is Christianity must be wiped from this Earth.





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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Cepheus]
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Cepheus said:
What really fucks me off is when you guys claim that you won the war. You didn't even join the war until 1942 and even engaged in trade with the Nazis at several points before you joined in.

The British Commonwealth and France entered the war to protect Poland after the German invasion, as a result of protection treaties. America stayed 'neutral' until Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. 

Seriously, its not even funny. Yeah we needed your help, but no way do you deserve the credit that you take.



Indeed. When that movie Pearl Harbour came out, one of the taglines was "Experience the event that changed the world."  :puke:

I'm pretty sure that day was in 1939 when Hitler decided to invade Poland...


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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: zouden]
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Lots of events changed the world at that time, both pearl harbor and Poland.

Also even before the war in Europe there was the war in Asia which started in the early 30s.

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: DieCommie]
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Yeah, I guess it's not even true to say the 'world changed' when Hitler decided to invade Poland, because we could just as easily say that the world changed when Hitler was elected. Or born. Or when Franz Ferdinand was assassinated, sparking the chain of events that led to WW1 which led to WW2.

Anyway, Pearl Harbor sucked, and Cuba Gooding Jr should have had a bigger part... he's much better than Ben Affleck


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I know... that just the smallest
                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: zouden]
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That's like saying being punched in the face is better than being kicked in the nuts.

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Re: Hey you non-Americans....what's your honest view of America and Americans in general? [Re: Redstorm]
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OK, I'd just like to apologize for the "we bailed you out in WWII" card I pulled, it's totally not my style to go with that route.

But I must say, I've been sick enough with being told that ignorance is part and parcel with my mother culture that I felt like hitting back any way I could.

Seriously, dudes, I'm sick of you fuckers acting like hicks and rednecks and Christian fundamentalists represent the USA. EVERY FUCKING COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has its backwoods fuckwits. Why is it that you take rednecks to represent America whereas British chavs represent nothing but chavs? Fuck you hypocritical assholes.


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