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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: JRichter420]
    #7316095 - 08/20/07 11:07 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

hold smoke longer yes definately or maybe there was not much dmt in the mix. i normally take 3 tokes to blast off

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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: retrospect]
    #7316100 - 08/20/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

You could always take an oral MAOI to make your smoked freebase DMT trip last longer...

I would use 10g of diplopterys c. soaked in alcohol for 3 days then reduced and dried completely...

I would then mix it with caapi vine shaving and passiflora incarnata flowers and smoke it from a water pipe...


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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: retrospect]
    #7316105 - 08/20/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

for one it cannot be smoked in salt form. for two, i think ill save my MAOIs for aya instead.

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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: ApacheShaman]
    #7316261 - 08/21/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

the mix i had didnt have any caapi in it but simply passiflora, mullein, and some acacia extract. would that mix still be good enough to breakthrough? im thinking of trying it again but the stuff is expensive.

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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: JRichter420]
    #7321046 - 08/22/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i spent forever on google trying to find more info on it and this is all i came up with:

http://dmt.tribe.net/thread/4272b52c-e306-46db-ab8b-29d635b81a82

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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: ApacheShaman]
    #7321170 - 08/22/07 10:37 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Man it would be great to have a joint full of cannabis, DMT extract, Caapi vine shavings and some passiflora i. flowers...

I have ayahuasca but I'm afaid to do it...Is there anyway I can extract all the DMT if it's already brewed?

Are there any dangers in doing your own extraction? Like if I do a horrible job...could I get sick when I smoke my DMT?


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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7321277 - 08/22/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i still wonder about DMT's super fast tolerance acquisition..
i'm guessing the MAOI might help that...
but still.. it seems like a waste of spice
why not just smoke the spice?
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edit: i'm sure there is a way to extract the alkoloid from the Aya.. it would be a little more difficult than extracting from a plant, I would guess. and yes, there are dangers.. but most extractions (of anything) are relatively easy.


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Re: anybody ever heard of changa? [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7321323 - 08/22/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i bet if you added naptha to it and go about extracting it like you are extracting free base from a lye solution you could extract dmt salt. then you would have to add the dmt salt to a lye water solution and then ad naptha to that and re extract it formt the lye solution. something along those lines. i perfer aya over smoked dmt. if you are affraid start with a small dose like 4 or 5 grams of MHRB. or 20 grams of psychotria leaves (tho the leaves realllyy vary in potency about 30 grams of foliage = ~10 grams of MHRB with MY source but no telling what u might have).

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