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Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer.
    #7319117 - 08/21/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)



2-3 more days?

i have another one thats a couple days behind that one as well.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319137 - 08/21/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

fruit it


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: dysphoria]
    #7319140 - 08/21/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

already? should i wait a bit longer?


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319184 - 08/21/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

A few days. Or fruit it now. But I'd wait.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Dr_T]
    #7319215 - 08/21/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i think ill probably wait 2 days.. i think i could probably get more out of it if i wait a bit longer now.. i am still misting it everyday.

how long after putting it in my martha should i expect it to pin.. like 7-10 daysish?


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319224 - 08/21/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yea 7-10 days....wait a few more days then patch and fruit


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7319229 - 08/21/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

im sure i could search it, but i know ur a cool dude.. explain patching to me real quick.. this is my first casing ive done... well, second but my last one got trich like a motherfucker.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319279 - 08/21/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Patching is putting extra casing over the early myc spots.

I don't do it, but lots of people swear by it.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Dr_T]
    #7319588 - 08/21/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

just to clarify, are you misting BEFORE its being put into the fruiting chamber?
i.e. misting it while its doing its casing run and breaking thru the casing?


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: dysphoria]
    #7319605 - 08/21/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yeah? ive been misting it once a day since i applied the casing layer... is this a bad thing?

maybe thats why i got trich last time.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319616 - 08/21/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

id say yes thats exactly why you got trich.
the casing is only to be watered when its drying out.
and that usually only happens once its reached the fruiting chamber.

its almost black when its saturated,
and light brown when its almost bone dry.

you should never mist a tray that is doing its casing run, UNLESS the water content was actually on the light brown side.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: dysphoria]
    #7319647 - 08/21/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

shit, fuck.

alright, well i wont mist them anymore.. atleast im misting them with distilled water


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319680 - 08/21/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yea man, it all actuality, they'll more than likely be ok.
its just when casings are super wet, like yours appear to be, its an open invite for contams.

misting is used more for a pinning trigger than moisture.
thats not to say your trays dont need the extra moisture; they'll certainly use it once they're fruiting, but until then, they're already at 100% capacity.

prime example: ive had casing layers go bone dry due to being in fruiting mode and me unable to mist anywhere that wouldnt get water on my mushrooms. in spite of this bone dry surface, the mushrooms continued to grow..because their moisture content mostly comes from the substrate.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: dysphoria]
    #7319692 - 08/21/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

thanks a lot for the info, i appreciate it.. i figured id just learn from experience, but i couldnt figure out where i got my contam from last time since the cakes colonized fine.

thanks a lot bro :thumbup:


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7319696 - 08/21/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Banez said:
yeah? ive been misting it once a day since i applied the casing layer... is this a bad thing?

maybe thats why i got trich last time.




Only mist when it's dry!

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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7320403 - 08/22/07 01:29 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

looking good banez. Don't fuck this one up.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7320477 - 08/22/07 02:30 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

trich really really likes stale air so make sure u fan or have some kind of air exchange/circulation.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: watchoutnow]
    #7320485 - 08/22/07 02:35 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yeah ive just been manually fanning them until they go into the FC, you are making me understand more and more why i got trich last time.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7320489 - 08/22/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

your not suppose to fan until their in the FC. when u want ur myc in the colonizatino phase u want that extra co2 for optimal colonization... thats what i thought.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: watchoutnow]
    #7320493 - 08/22/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

well, the container i use to colonize the casing layer provides no FAE, so i air it out several times per day.. i think my biggest problem is over misting.


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: TrippinTeddy]
    #7321948 - 08/22/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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looking good banez. Don't fuck this one up.




Yeah, no pressure. But seriously good job Banez.

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    #7322058 - 08/22/07 02:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

thanks guys :snowman:

and ill try not to fuck this one up for sure, im looking forward to a nice mush harvest in a couple o' weeks


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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Banez]
    #7322125 - 08/22/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Banez,

You want to keep the casing covered with something during the entire time it is colonizing the substrate. Aluminum foil works well for most and the only thing you want to do as far a FAE is to poke a few holes here and there with a fork in the foil.
Here is why:

1. During this time the uncolonized portion of the substrate is highly succeptable to contamination and you want to keep exposure to a minimum.
2. There is no need for any more fresh air during this time that what can get through the few holes you poke. (and the air you let in when you peek at the progress)
3. It is true that there will be a higher ratio of CO2 while colonizing but that is a good thing, because when you place the casing into the FC the drastic reduction of CO2 helps to trigger the fruiting phase of the life cycle.

Hope this helps out!
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Re: Pic of casing 5 days after applying casing layer. [Re: Mykey]
    #7322183 - 08/22/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

yeah thats what i have now, sort of...

i have them in the incubator, in the rubbermaid, with the lid on.. and i air it out daily.. it's looking very very good today, i plan on birthing it tomorrow :snowman:


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