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Re: How Old are we [Re: ]
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Yeah, yeah, right, only I never got any Sandoz LSD. I don't know about Tammy Faye, but if she did, it didn't have a positive effect on her. :P


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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what about ivan stang?
)PRAISE BOB !!!(
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too many drugs filtering into the "subculture" ??? spillover from MK-ULTRA project? cia spooks with nobody to watch over 'em?
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the president's analyst?
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did JFK & bobby trip?
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straynge daze...


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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Depends what you mean by "positive effect". Send a woman painted up like her into any acid party and you're asking for a real good time!

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Re: How Old are we [Re: gnrm23]
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Gnrm23

But I don't think it was the president that tripped. It was James Coburn that did the trippin.

I remember seeing that one at a drive-in with my parents. I think Water Hole #9 was playing with it.

Leaf

Edited by leafblowerz (07/11/02 08:51 AM)

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Re: How Old are we [Re: nugsarenice]
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19, first trip was at the age of 14.....


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Re: How Old are we [Re: gnrm23]
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Perrrrrrraaaze Bob!
missed X-Day. ol' BJ, preacher of the word for over 10 years, wuz supposed to take me up to brushwood but lost my #. last time we were rappin' at the coffee shop, i bring up mckenna and he shudders n' sez that at a starwood fest. some many moons ago he and ol' t. mckenna were chatting in the hot tub together and unexepectedly starts feeling a foot fondling up his leg... mckenna's foot, that is. eheheh, believe that?


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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like a ball in a mountain stream, thought after thought after thought with no block. and that's the mind of a child as the innocent mind, the mind of a person who is enlightened, says Zen master Joshu. but then, last year i went tricker treating an some ol' bag sneers at me and says "aren't you a little too old to be tricker treating" and i laughed and said "that depends, senora, chronologically or mentally?" yeheheheh. but appearance wise, 3 random people in the last month have shouted out that i looked like woody allen (byuck!). a few years back they used to tell me weird al or polly schore, indicating some sort of aging. hair is already receding n' falling downwards, some smart ass friends were howling and shouting out "teen wolf!" when I hopping in the pool over, grrrr. sure wish somebody would pay this tot's bills! heheh, love n' blessings, CJ


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: How Old are we [Re: CosmicJoke]
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16, first smoked bud at 13, first drank at 14/15 (cant remember), tripped at 16, other drugs in between...coke, speed... only a few times tho

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Re: How Old are we [Re: Ripple]
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From a sociological point of view, this thread has turned into quite an interesting survey. It would seem however, that the young'uns here take your question about acid, and generalize it to every psychoactive thing they've ever put in their mouths. If you'll permit me...

HEY! TEENAGERS! Listen up! This is not a contest. Taking all kinds of drugs is not where it's at. Psychedelics are perhaps the most powerful 'change agents' known to man. They are classed as drugs, but they are also known as "sacred drugs" by Dr. Albert Hofmann, discoverer of LSD. Learn the difference. If you've managed to survive intact at age 13 or 14 after taking LSD, you've obviously received a low enough dose not to undo the cognitive development that is still under construction. 18 is not an arbitrary age, it is an average age of the completion of some very crucial developmental processes that you may very well f**k up forever with large dosages of psychedelics. Your cerebral cortex has 10 more years to develop. Listen, read and learn now so you can benefit later. I've been a psychotherapist and an addictions counselor for 20 years, and if you freak out and get yourself taken to a hospital because you've eaten a bunch of gel-tabs - I'll tell you - the physicians are gonna teach you a lesson under the guise of treatment. This is unethical bullshit, but I've had kids who could be calmed by a dimly lit room, good music, a best friend and maybe 5mg of Valium, but no. They were strapped to a gurney all night under bright lights, treated like they were psychotic and had blood drawn every 30 minutes while getting lectured to about brain damage. Be Advised from a friendly elder. As to coke, crack, crank, and cough medicine...knock it off before it knocks you off. Live Long!


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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i found out orange peels are edible. i was all whacked out!

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Re: How Old are we [Re: nugsarenice]
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Hey, you know if you take an orange peel and put a stick of gum on it and put in in your refrigerator for a month, and take it out and split the gum into 4 squares. each square is like taking a hit of acid.
And if you take a melon and drill a hole in it and put sugar in it and bury it in the yard for a month and take it out and split the melon into 4 slices. each slice is like taking a hit of acid.
Or something.

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Re: How Old are we [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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LOL....

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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Markos

>"HEY! TEENAGERS! Listen up! This is not a contest. Taking all kinds of drugs is not where it's at."<

I'm not generally gettin that from their comments. I think you've got some kind of trip concerning the kids.

>"They are classed as drugs, but they are also known as 'sacred drugs' by Dr. Albert Hofmann, discoverer of LSD."

Man, you're a real blowhard. You sound like some old geezer lecturing a kid in an alley as you suck down on your forty. I'd say that most of these young people are quite aware of the spirituality involved with the use of psychedelics.

>"If you've managed to survive intact at age 13 or 14 after taking LSD, you've obviously received a low enough dose not to undo the cognitive development that is still under construction. 18 is not an arbitrary age, it is an average age of the completion of some very crucial developmental processes that you may very well f**k up forever with large dosages of psychedelics. Your cerebral cortex has 10 more years to develop. "<

I'm sure that the foundation for your position is the fact that you started a little later. Lol. Don't get me wrong though. I'm sure you've dug hard enough until you could find somebody somewhere to back your contention.

Don't get me wrong folks, I'm not endorsing the use of these substances by non adults.

>"Listen, read and learn now so you can benefit later."<

That is very good advice.

>"I've been a psychotherapist and an addictions counselor for 20 years..."<

Now, there's your problem.

>"the physicians are gonna teach you a lesson under the guise of treatment."<

You got that right, baby.

Didn't you hear the Who? The kids are alright. You need to get off your high horse and stop peering down at people through your monocle, my good doctor.

Leaf





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Re: How Old are we [Re: ]
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Well this simple question sure went off into space, I love it! But check out some numbers: of the replies

9 are under 19
9 are 19
8 are 20
6 are 21 - 23
4 are 24 - 29
4 are 30 - 39
9 are over 40


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The bus came by and I got on that's when it all began!


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Re: How Old are we [Re: Ripple]
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9 are over 40 ........So there's still hope for us olde fartz yet! thanks for running a really cool pole


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Re: How Old are we [Re: FreakQlibrium]
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Thanks, Yea I thought that was cool too. Don't throw durt on us yet.

Old men sing about their dreams, Women laugh and children scream
And the band keeps playin' on.


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Re: How Old are we [Re: ]
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Yeah...and you're obviously the result of exactly the things I'm concerned about, like stunted social development, difficulties in critical thinking, and problems with authority. I'd say that name-calling, opinionated, reactive statements based on unsubstantiated assumptions, and obviously no understanding of substance abuse casualties among adolescents, places you in the strange condition of extended adolescence.

My "trip" with kids is to keep them mentally healthy, and as you can discern, but not quite comprehend, it is more than just my career. My "problem" is not with having education and experience, it's with individuals like you who mindlessly criticize sound advice, and then make a ridiculous disclaimer about 'not endorsing the use of substances by non-adults.' AS IF young teenagers aren't confused enough about drugs and why adults are advocating them at this forum. My address was to teenagers, and inasmuch as YOU responded, you must feel that it applies to you. Teenagers do NOT grasp the 'spiritual' implications of psychedelics because the transrational, transpersonal dimension follows the attainment of cognitive development which they have not achieved yet. THAT was the point of my caution to them - not to interfere with normal human development by the premature introduction of 'change agents.' They haven't accrued the problems yet that could be helped by psychedelic experience, but may very well undo a growing structure.

How old did you say you were? And why the hell would you attempt to sabotage an intelligent warning and confuse kids at the same time? What is YOUR motive, and what is your problem?


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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Markos

Maybe you could show me who you were talking to in this thread when you said "HEY! TEENAGERS! Listen up! This is not a contest"?

You're a blowhard, dude. The only thing you are concerned about is stroking your own ego.

>"Teenagers do NOT grasp the 'spiritual' implications of psychedelics because the transrational, transpersonal dimension follows the attainment of cognitive development which they have not achieved yet."<

Total bullshit although it probably does describe you in your teen years.

I'll bet dozens (if not more) poor bastards have been subjected to having to listen to your blabbering bullshit as per a court order too.

>"And why the hell would you attempt to sabotage an intelligent warning and confuse kids at the same time? What is YOUR motive, and what is your problem?"<

Your opinion of yourself is not warranted. Your warning wasn't intelligent and you underestimate young people. Your response was arrogant and probably the result of years of buttsucking by individuals just trying to get past the fool and off probation.

Leaf

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Re: How Old are we [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Markos

By the way, I'm a retired street cop. And I've spent years watching blowhards like you sap the system and cause more harm than good.

No wonder your old lady paints her face up like that. She's embarrassed to be seen with ya!

Leaf

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Re: How Old are we [Re: ]
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getting back to the subject on hand, I've spent 16 long years on this earth.

I can't help but wonder if this getting old is all its cracked up to be.


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"Breathing of mist, soul enshrouded, I am just... an Illusion"

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