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Offlinemoon_glue
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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: Salvinorin]
    #7305894 - 08/17/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

don rush into that situation, wait for the right time in your life.


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OfflineTBags
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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: moon_glue]
    #7305919 - 08/17/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

that sounds like an absolutely unreal experience but you did a great job describing it


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: TBags]
    #7306001 - 08/17/07 08:33 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

My typical dose is around 7 grams. 5 grams really isn't much of a big deal to me. I really like the heavy trips, because it feels like I accomplished something instead of just sitting around laughing my ass off the whole time.

I have only had one level 5 trip and it wasn't even that much of a visual trip. I did die and it was pretty horrible. That night I had my scale on the wrong setting so when I measured out my mushrooms dose I actually measured out 6 grams instead of 4. I took those with a few grams of rue and after five minutes I was starting to go crazy.

It was a really bad experience, but I feel that I wasn't ready at the time and I was rushing for such a thing. I believe that once you are ready you can achieve it at much lower doses.

~Peace Out


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: kungpow]
    #7306678 - 08/18/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all the replies. Expeccially Salvinorin's reply. I know these descriptions won't come close to the actual experience, and so thats why I'm both nervous and eager about trying it. I'll make sure I'm in an over all healthy emotional state before I dose myself. lol

Thanks guys.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7306698 - 08/18/07 02:40 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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TripityDooDaDay said:
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just let go, you are not really dying




It's not dieing that scares me. It's the fear of no longer even having a death in which to escape that gets me.




wow, that sounds like my experience.

i took 47g freshly picked cambodians half a year ago. i don't know if it was a lvl 5 experience but it was fierce.

long story short: first time dissolved, i understood that time does not exist, that "counting" time is a human concept and just a symbol.

the next stage included space collapsing around me: or in my head, at least. i could no longer say "where" i sat. i had actually collapsed into the corner because my legs were made of putty but i couldn't define space any more. i was "nowhere", i couldn't make any difference between being "in the center of the floor", "on the couch" or "in the bathroom". and as i was bodily Nowhere, my mind was Everywhere.

from there, after space/time in my head collapsed i lost my body and i guess i blacked out. my friend says i just curled up and became quiet. i showed no signs of distress so she left me alone just as i had instructed her. all that existed then was me as a thought. like i was an onion which layers were peeled off until the core remained. i sustained my existence only by thinking of myself - i heard some people say on shroomery that i was about to experience lvl 5 ego death experience.

it was the most horrible feeling ever. i truly wanted to kill myself but then i understood in order to kill yourself you have to have a physical body. and then i realized it was worse than death: owning a body, however miserable, was to be a blessing. there, inside spiraling fractals and a hall of mirrors that reflected my every thought i thought i had lost my mind.

only after a week i could properly write down what happened and just say WOW.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: TheInnerOne111]
    #7307260 - 08/18/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

My friend and I have sat down in my apartment and eaten from a couple of ounces a few times. we both prob ate a half each. I liked it it wasnt too czay any of the times just tripping harder and things bouncing around more and lots of laughing. I also went to a cow field that i knew the owner of well, my friend and I just ate mushrooms off of cow poo all day I didnt more than like a half or so but my friend must have eaten a couple of ounces at least. He had to go the hospital but he wasn't too high to talk to me, he was freakin out really bad tho.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: cow6000]
    #7307483 - 08/18/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

trip2night - I don't think that is too uncommon, but I've never experienced it. I would expect that it is somehow a method of your brain trying to get itself back on track through socialization...somehow trying to cling to normal reality. Many people find themselves repeating a single sentence many, many times as a link back to "sanity."

Either way, its nothing to be worried about. I've heard of it happening to lots of people.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: TheInnerOne111]
    #7307639 - 08/18/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It is a wonderful experience! The last time I did this was a week or two ago when I went to a concert. I dosed 4 grams, then 4 grams again when the trip of the first dose started! This caused my body to have interesting sensations and I felt as if I could see the music written down in my mind. It also caused alot of confusion towards my ego, cause I didn't know I was on mushrooms or who I was exactly anymore. You need to experience it yourself to actually feel it. I find that I have less to worry about if I'm tripping that hard anyway! Peace! :cool:


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I believe with the advent of acid we discovered new way to think and it had to
do with piecing together new thoughts of mind. Why is it that people think it's
so evil? What is it about it that there is scares people so deeply? Because
they are afraid that there is more to reality than they have ever confronted.
That there are doors that they're afraid to go in and they don't want us to go
in there either because if we go in, there we might learn something that they
don't know. And that makes us a little out of their control.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7307653 - 08/18/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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TripityDooDaDay said:
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just let go, you are not really dying




It's not dieing that scares me. It's the fear of no longer even having a death in which to escape that gets me.




that is pretty cool man

its like...oh fuck, this is it...


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: colimon]
    #7307753 - 08/18/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I think Salvinorin was pretty spot on.
I've been cranking up my doses gradually and now use around 5 grams, and if they don't feel potent I usually take a little more later on.

But I've a friend who can take 10 grams with no hesitation anywhere so I guess it's very individual. I could never do that with so many unexpected things happening :smile:


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: Arp]
    #7309146 - 08/18/07 11:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I have two more questions:

1. Is the confusion of the 5th level anything like the confusion of too much salvia. I once smoked way too much of 15x Salvia and got very lost. Everything was fractalized, I couldn't remember how to simply get out of bed, time was a concept not even realized, and there was this presence in the room with me and it kept tugging at me. That was a hard trip, but I didn't freak out.

2. What are the beneficial effects of embarking on a 5th level mushroom trip? Is it worth it?


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: TheInnerOne111]
    #7310238 - 08/19/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Here's my experience. It was scary, delightful, intense, ...joy and pain together.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/6930256/an/0/page/0


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: SmellyMushroom]
    #7310385 - 08/19/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not sure about 5th level or whatever, but I always do 5 - 6 gram trips. I'm planning on doing a 7 next time. This is what is does for me (without to much details).

On come up I can barely move I feel like lead and just want to fall into the ground, but I force myself to walk (very slowly) as it helps with the nausea and helps keep me calm (I call it FAE !).

Then after a while I get the feeling that I am being replaced by someone or something else and I no longer know how to 'act' as myself, then I get emense energy flowing through me, and like to sit in the sun closed eyes watching the fractal God, sometimes I can't help but rock back and forwards slowly as this seem to increase the energy to astounding levels. I also often commune with the trees ... they really are alive. I am humbled by the older ones and amused by the little ones.

I see the different levels of my being and I am connected to (or am) the fractal God that is the top. It's emense, beautiful .. life changing.

I always takes a few hours to remember how to be myself again, but it is definitely a very worthwhile experience everytime. Sometimes I think it's like this fractal God becomes me or I become it or am it .. I dunno .. but I will be doing some more investigating !

The closest I have had to bad was today when with my girl who wasn't' tripping. It was really hard to stay down and be myself and at one point I did loose it a bit, very unexpectedly (nothing bad, but it was hard to keep it together).

Best to do big trips by your self I find, otherwise you can be trapped in your ego and also do it in nature, preferably in the Sun where nobody can annoy you. Today I thought I had finished tripping but when I cam back into the house I realized how much I was still tripping ... went back outside and felt normal again.



Happy tripping.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: cloudtripper]
    #7310650 - 08/19/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the info guys. I liked both of your accounts. I'm gonna try it once in nature, but also in the silent midnight darkness of my room. Peace.


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Re: The 5th Level Experience... [Re: leery11]
    #7310687 - 08/19/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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leery11 said:
would you say 5 grams is stronger than 2 hits of average lsd ?




Hell yeah, you are probobly talking 3 hits or above if they are good shrooms. In my world mushroom intensity is FAR stronger than LSD intensity. So much more emotional, getting lost in tangent thoughts and on acid at least I know where I am and what is going on.

Two hits of LSD is great experience and you can learn so much, but even medium doses of mushrooms can rattle you to the core. I can't even imagine the mindfuck of 5 grams.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."


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