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Invisiblematts
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    #730331 - 07/07/02 09:29 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)


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    #730464 - 07/08/02 02:22 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)



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Invisiblematts
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    #730497 - 07/08/02 02:55 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: filters and jars [Re: matts]
    #730648 - 07/08/02 05:13 AM (21 years, 9 months ago)

i use filter discs every time without the metal lid....just metal band and a filter...as long as your incubator will hold the moisture within it your jars will be ok....i have never had a single jar dry out...and i rarely lose a jar anymore...i wipe down my filter discs with alcohol after i remove them from pressure cooker and take off foil.then i put in a clean container until cooled and ready to br juiced....then i rub down before innoculation and just tape over my innoc. holes...throw in incubator and give it 2 weeks....be sure to use a vermiculite layer on top too....good luck...MMFD are the shit.....

Edited by strang (07/08/02 05:17 AM)

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Invisiblematts
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[Re: strang]
    #731599 - 07/08/02 01:09 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)


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Re: filters and jars [Re: matts]
    #731612 - 07/08/02 01:21 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

You can also drill 2 ............1/4 inch holes in a metal lid & place the filter under it, then use the metal lid ring & screw it down. Use one hole for innoc & tape it over.

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Re: filters and jars [Re: matts]
    #732126 - 07/08/02 05:31 PM (21 years, 9 months ago)

no the alcchol wont hurt the discs....i have never tried to reuse old discs...i wouldnt want to use them again with two holes already in them ya know....just be clean and things should be just fine....i use alot of lysol and alcohol and i rarely lose a jar...i would innoculate the jars with a friend around so he can tape the holes while your innoculating cause the hot needle melts the discs a little and you want to tape the holes as quick as possible...and he can take them off the rack and put them in a clean incubator....good luck man.....

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Re: filters and jars [Re: strang]
    #844866 - 08/26/02 03:51 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

i am using regular coffee filters . my jars are almost fully colonized after 10 days. they should be done in 3 days. no contams and the filters were super cheap. i used 2 on every jar.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: matts]
    #844890 - 08/26/02 03:59 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Use the metal lids til they get rusty and nasty looking.
Then go buy some plastic lids.

I use tyvek instead of filter discs now......I like the price better.
Plus I don't have to buy the filter discs from an asshole anymore!


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Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
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Invisiblecheesenoonions
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Re: filters and jars [Re: matts]
    #846018 - 08/27/02 04:50 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I like the disks from myco supply MUCH better than the micron magic ones. They are truely a better filter. They are moredurable, they don't wick water into your substrate, they are fitted to widemouth and regular mouth sizes, and they are thick and seem inpenetrable The only prob is they are like $16 for 10! MUCH MUCH better than the 100 for $15. They are easier to reuse, too. I use the metal lids to hold the Micron Magick disks down and I get contam somtimes on the top of the filter disk that grows through th filter! That is not much of a filter in my opinion. Plus you have to cut them and if you follow his tek on his web page you put foil on the top as the last step . i bought disks so I wouldn't have to use foil and maximize air exchange. In his defense he does instruct to loosely put the foil on , but still. Roadkill, what is Tyvek?

Edited by cheesenoonions (08/27/02 04:51 AM)

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Re: filters and jars [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #846360 - 08/27/02 08:16 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Tyvek is a vapor barrier material.

Anno was the first person that I saw on the site to bring this up.

Its used inbetween walls on buildings and houses.
You can buy it at Home Depot and building supply stores.
Pretty cheap this way.

The US postal service uses it for their Express Envelopes.
It says Tyvek right on the envelope.
But....I'll warn you that it might be a crime to use these free envelopes other than to use them for Express mail.
You can make 6....6" filter disks from one envelope.

Safety and Supply stores have these white suits made out of Tyvek.
These suits are used for Asbestos removal and such.
Only about $2.00 for a whole suit.

How I make my Tyvek filter disks:
I bought a 6" round protractor...1 perm marker....and a pair of sharp scissors.
I lay the protractor down on top of the Tyvek.
Draw around the protractor with a perm marker.
Then cut out the circle.


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #846364 - 08/27/02 08:20 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

FedEx envelopes are made of the same material. I suppose it wouldn't be a federal crime to misuse these!


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #846458 - 08/27/02 09:01 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

youve got to be kidding me....

Can they be PCd?


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Re: filters and jars [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #846484 - 08/27/02 09:09 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

So TYVEK is the stuff the micron magik filters are made out of? Or it works the same? Yall are having good results using Tyvek? Thanks!

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Re: filters and jars [Re: Bilge]
    #846525 - 08/27/02 09:25 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

It's not the same stuff, but it does work similarly. Tyvek allows for air exchange, but the pores are too small for contaminants to pass through.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Bilge]
    #846858 - 08/27/02 11:53 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

like I said, I think that the Micron Magick disks may be too porous.

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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #846869 - 08/27/02 11:57 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

you sir deserve a mushroom rating!

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Re: filters and jars [Re: cheesenoonions]
    #847082 - 08/27/02 01:31 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

so far i haven't had good luck with filters...
i tryed them with the brf/verm half pints .... dry them up and 8 out of 8 pr's got the cobweb ...( may be the provider of the syringe fault for a bad syringe making the pr's get cobweb )
i tryed them with rye .... with gt's and hawain pesh ... got the green funk after three to five days ... maybe due to shaking it to get the wet rye apart and the filter got soaked by the rye and rye juice
i'll just have to try try again .... i got like fifty more mircon filters for free ...
Just wondering if it's ok to use them with birdseed in quart jars ???


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    #847188 - 08/27/02 02:37 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)


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Re: filters and jars [Re: matts]
    #847938 - 08/27/02 07:46 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

how do you use coffee filters?

explain?


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847940 - 08/27/02 07:48 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

how do you use coffee filters?


Very risky to use coffee filters. Find a local FedEx location and try the Tyvek envelopes.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #847942 - 08/27/02 07:49 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

you just screw a piece of the envelope on between the lid and the jar?

i dont really understand the set up for filters


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847950 - 08/27/02 07:51 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Just cut out a circle that's larger in diameter than the mouth of the jar. Lay the circle on the mouth of the jar and screw the ring on.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #847954 - 08/27/02 07:53 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

do you pressure cook with that filter on there? and then innoculate through it?


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847957 - 08/27/02 07:54 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

You didn't read this whole thread.....did you.

I explained how to make your own Tyvek filters!!!


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847961 - 08/27/02 07:54 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

do you pressure cook with that filter on there? and then innoculate through it?




Yes


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #847964 - 08/27/02 07:55 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

Yes


LOL.. Lots of handholding for this guy..


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Re: filters and jars [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #847973 - 08/27/02 07:57 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

If we keep this up all night we can aswer all their questions and move on to the next bunch of newbies!!!!



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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #847974 - 08/27/02 07:58 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

you didnt really explain how to make tyvek filter for the pf tek... you said how to make nice circles and cut it out .


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #847977 - 08/27/02 07:59 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

and yes, lots of handholding -- i like to do things right the first time. if you have a problem with my numerous questions you can stop answering them. or write a tek.


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Invisiblemickey_rourke
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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847979 - 08/27/02 07:59 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

In reply to:

you didnt really explain how to make tyvek filter for the pf tek... you said how to make nice circles and cut it out .


You dont't use Tyvek for the PF Tek. Try reading the FAQ for more information concerning the PF style of cultivation.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847980 - 08/27/02 08:00 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

It's not for the pf tek....per say.
It's for quart jars of Rye and birdseed.

I wouldn't waste a filter on the PF tek.....or a cake.


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847982 - 08/27/02 08:01 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I have wrote several teks and if you had read some of them you wouldn't be asking stupid questions!!!


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #847985 - 08/27/02 08:02 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

OH ... i assumed you were making those filters for the cakes. I am sorry if I offended his highness mickey rourke


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #847988 - 08/27/02 08:03 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

actually you offended both of us with your ignorance.

try reading a little more!

I suggest these.

PF TEK

FAQ

Ultimate Mycodirectory v4.0



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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: filters and jars [Re: Roadkill]
    #847995 - 08/27/02 08:06 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

its interesting how message boards breed such hateful remarks towards other people .. perhaps anonymity makes it okay to throw around harsh words? please mellow out


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #848003 - 08/27/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I think enough information concerning filter disks has been shared. We aren't going to tolerate this kind of rudeness in the forum. I'm closing this one.

Peace


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Re: filters and jars [Re: I_Stain_Blue]
    #848004 - 08/27/02 08:08 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I don't play well with others!

Especially ones that don't do any homework.

now please depart this thread.....this was a kicking thread before you made me cop an attitude!


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Laterz, Road

Who the hell you callin crazy?
You wouldn't know what crazy was if Charles Manson was eating froot loops on your front porch!


Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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