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 zdev
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 Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) 
#7285680 - 08/11/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok I dunk n' rolled my cakes and put them in my terrarium 8 days ago, and they still look exactly the same. Did they just decide to go on vacation? All I see that's a little different is some fuzzy white shit on the top.
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Neobean
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: zdev]
#7285688 - 08/11/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pictures would help.
Are you getting good FAE and a high RH?
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zdev
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: Neobean]
#7285699 - 08/11/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've got holes drilled all over the place, fan multiple times per day, water condensing on all sides at all times.
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: zdev]
#7285721 - 08/11/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Condensation doesn't mean high humidity, it only means there is a temp difference between the inside and the outside of your FC...
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: Neobean]
#7285728 - 08/11/07 09:51 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do you at least have hyphae knots, some thick stuff that looks like it might turn into a pin? Like I said in a previous post, I had to wait 9 or 10 days before a couple pins even showed up.
Also, why did you dunk and roll?
Could there be an internal contam holding it back?
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: aberrant]
#7285732 - 08/11/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's not that unusual for it to take longer - can be as much as 2 weeks for pins to form.
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zdev
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: Boarders]
#7285746 - 08/11/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I mean like dripping and stuff, I spray pretty regularly
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: zdev]
#7285824 - 08/11/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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You want to spray the chamber, not the cakes. Giving moisture to the casing is one thing but not the cake itself.
Pictures would be easier to help but I'm sure it's fine and just going to take time.
Dunk and roll is pretty popular. Search Dunk AND Roll.
Edited by JohnDOH (08/11/07 10:37 PM)
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: zdev]
#7285857 - 08/11/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I had a bunch of holes in mine, it took for ever for pins and the first mushroom to grow the veil broke and the cap split and i realized that the humidity was too low.. i taped off all the holes and have been misting and fanning it non stop and the other cakes are pinning everywhere and growing fast... like some of the mushrooms have grown about an 1 to 1 1/2 inches since this morning... make sure they get a lighty cycle of some sort.. thats what finally got my cakes to start pinning in the first place..
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: deformedreality]
#7285893 - 08/11/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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You need to lightly mist the actual cakes too. When you do a dunk and roll, the roll is in dry vermiculite. It then needs to be misted a few times daily so it can absorb moisture, making it available over time to the mycelium in the cake.
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7286805 - 08/12/07 07:03 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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ha. im on day 12 now. still no pins. but im having patience. good luck...
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: sproket13]
#7286996 - 08/12/07 08:33 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, I did mist the cakes after I rolled them. I didn't even really notice it till now but it looks like the cakes have started to colonize the verm, because there is noticably less verm on the surface of the cake now. Did I just roll them in too much verm or something and now they are preoccupied with colonizing rather than fruiting?
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: zdev]
#7287020 - 08/12/07 08:45 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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my verm is pretty colonized too. its annoying that after 12 days nothing...but im going to have patience. 8 more days and ill start to panic. maybe try a cold shock...
one thing i didnt really do is when i took them out of the jars, and rinsed. i didnt really rub them down, just rinsed. dont think its a problem, but its the only thing i can think of i didnt do that i know RR did
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: sproket13]
#7287033 - 08/12/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've never found the rub-down to be necessary, it's just good for getting rid of loose verm from the prophylactic layer.
RR would also be the first to tell you that cold shocking is not for cubes. Cold shocking is for certain temperate species that need an indicator that the season has changed.
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Cold shocking is for cold weather, fall fruiting mushrooms. Mushrooms that fruit during the spring and summer such as cubes and many oyster species do not benefit from a cold shock, and in most cases it delays fruiting.
Are you sure you're getting high enough humidity and plenty of FAE?
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Edited by figgusfiddus (08/12/07 08:55 AM)
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Re: Eight days and still no pins (wtf?) [Re: figgusfiddus]
#7288134 - 08/12/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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humidity is about 95-100% in mine. i have a 4" layer of perlite. AND added 2 bubble stones in quart jars to help out. i fan it about 4 times a day. seems like i should just wait longer i suppose.
i have other jars i knocked up almost a month after my first ones. and they are all done already. gonna let them sit for a week, and make a PMP. and throw them in there. hopefully by then these will be pinning. if not something is certainly wrong. lol hell, i even have 6500k lights!! jesus. these cakes couldnt be happier.
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