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OfflineLittle Fanning
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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7285240 - 08/11/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

what i hate about alot of message boards
the rules say stuff like, "don't flame or troll" etc...
yet that is all you ever see happening.

i guess some people think it's cool to talk in circles, they think they are powerful because they can interfere and influence others by peer pressure.
but all they ever succeed in doing is keeping away cool people who actually have something to say.

that's the shape our world is in, you can't change it.
put the blame where it belongs, on the guilty party, the owner and the mod team.

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Little Fanning]
    #7285245 - 08/11/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

what i hate about alot of message boards
the rules say stuff like, "don't flame or troll" etc...
yet that is all you ever see happening.


You seem to be making a pretty black and white statement here. That is not even most of what you see happening here.

You seem to have strong opinions about everyone else but I don't see much different in your posting. In fact quite the opposite.


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With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Icelander]
    #7285414 - 08/11/07 07:39 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

lol

funny

i've been visiting this board for over 5 years.
and it's still the same bullshit it's always been
liars, flamers and trolls who have no idea what they're talking about

can you read?
you fucking stupid nigger!
lol

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Grok]
    #7285702 - 08/11/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i really like your post. i've noticed the same thing.

maybe this is just me...but the rolling the eyes icon you attacted to the subject of the original post seems arrogant to me. you should change it to this -> :evil:

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Little Fanning]
    #7286852 - 08/12/07 07:23 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Little Fanning said:
lol

funny

i've been visiting this board for over 5 years.
and it's still the same bullshit it's always been
liars, flamers and trolls who have no idea what they're talking about

can you read?
you fucking stupid nigger!
lol




What a shame, now your point is no longer valid because you are doing exactly what you complain others are doing.

I'll admit this is a tough forum, but they explain that in the description.  MP&R is much more laid back.  Y'all just need to find your niche.  :plur:


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: mushbaby]
    #7286867 - 08/12/07 07:32 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Everybody post their opinions and ideas here by choice, no one is forced. If anyone finds this forum uncomfortable, there are hundreds of other forums what they can air their views.


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

"Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane

Edited by shakercee (08/12/07 07:42 AM)

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7287113 - 08/12/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Maybe some of these claims are crazy but I would much rather experience for myself and try to understand exactly what would drive someone to assert them rather than immediately write them off as a self-deluded placebonaut.




You must still be relatively young. When you have seen endless claims over many decades as I have about crystal and pyramid power, telekinesis and Nessie; the Harmonic Convergence and 2012, it is fairly easy to call 'bullshit' on some new twist to an old fable.

WHEN EVERY SINGLE PARANORMAL CLAIM THAT CAN BE TESTED TURNS OUT TO BE NONSENSE, how much more tripe can one swallow? Its not as if 1 claim in a thousand has validity. Not one of them does.

What is so important about understanding why? There are only about a half dozen reasons, and they will cover almost all cases. These reasons do not change when dealing with Crap Circles or UFOs or levitation or religion.




really this is nearly the last word,
at least for most ufo's
all cropcircles, and 99% of claims of supra normal events.
however, though
some of us are quite jaded (that certain things have not happenned to us yet, or ever, or maybe never)
does not preclude that
all instances of telepathy and clairvoyance, while unprovable in a lab, reapeatably by skeptics, should be considered junk like 2012, and mysteries about crystals.

the magic of crystals is dream magic of mathematics and dimensions in general (AKA poetry, proxies etc.).
2012 is really 100% junk bogus shit
crop circles are funny business
(hoaxes)
ufo's are unidentified at the best.
and yet there are still tons of wonderful unexplainable things that will happen in a life.
the hugest mystery in my mind
is just how many hopeless dicks and janes end up finding eachother
how do they do it?
really
statistics needs a way to measure our dicks more effectively
and then perhaps we will see telepathy for what it really is.


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7287284 - 08/12/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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When reality is broken down completely...
You are left with a formless but eager fluid-like substance.
It wants to be poured into challenging networks of interconnectedness.
It knows that it can always be withdrawn and taken back up if it doesn't 'fit'.
Practice.
Exercise.




What is a network of interconnectedness?

Is it made of interconnectedness?

Can you make pudding, or perhaps some sort of gazpacho, out of interconnectedness?


In reference to the original post: My mind is exceedingly open to the notion that many people are quite insane and must immediately be told that they are insane. Most of them live on the internet.

No, jokes aside, insane ramblings should be considered thoroughly. There is no mind, no rational mind anyway, that should be ruined by mere input, and so there is no reason not to accept some input for analysis. Analysis is not the same as acceptance, and it's important to discern convenient (or aesthetic) notions from truly reasonable ones. You can only do this by considering them carefully, and so you can only discount a notion by considering it carefully.

My only disappointment comes from those (and there are many here) whose aesthetically pleasing, psychologically convenient fantasies are completely stale and uninteresting. Those people I might, in moments of weakness, reduce to objects of amusement.


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7287341 - 08/12/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

"Can you make pudding, or perhaps some sort of gazpacho, out of interconnectedness?"

Seems to be the case.

Sucrose molecule.
Like this is a new idea?? WTF??

"...whose aesthetically pleasing, psychologically convenient fantasies are completely stale and uninteresting."

Talk to the creator, captain.
That's how shit works.
Its all about the interconnectedness.
Brain??

Interconnectedness:
-from wiki

Not to be confused with interconnectivity.
Not to be confused with interdependance.
Interconnectedness is part of the terminology of a worldview which sees a oneness in all things. A similar term, interdependence, is sometimes used instead, although there are slightly different connotations. Both terms tend to refer to the idea that all things are of a single underlying substance and reality, and that there is no true separation deeper than appearances. Some feel that 'interconnectedness' and similar terms are part of a contemporary lexicon of mysticism, which is based on the same core idea of universal oneness.

Help at all??
What the hell is gazpacho??


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7287359 - 08/12/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

These reasons do not change when dealing with Crap Circles or UFOs or levitation or religion.

Crap circles are real! I've even made some, though admittedly not on purpose. :yesnod:


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Diploid]
    #7287383 - 08/12/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I have a buddy that breeds Wimerieners...
His yard was full of them.
Case closed.


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Little Fanning]
    #7290670 - 08/13/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Little Fanning said:
lol

funny

i've been visiting this board for over 5 years.
and it's still the same bullshit it's always been
liars, flamers and trolls who have no idea what they're talking about

can you read?
you fucking stupid nigger!
lol




But of course you don't flame or lie or troll. No not you. You're the only one who has his shit together and is honest and has anything of import to say here. :monkeydance:

And if it's so bad what have you been doing here for five years? Don't you have any thing else to do? :monkeydance:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Little Fanning]
    #7290701 - 08/13/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, very interesting sentiments coming from a puppet. Wasn't your original account banned because of repeated flaming? Hmmm...

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7290728 - 08/13/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

My point is that you cannot make a "network of interconnectedness", not that interconnectedness is not a word or concept. I don't see how you would expect me to be arguing the latter. It's just a redundant, and thus very silly, phrase, originally poised to sound lofty and significant. Hence, I found it funny, and asked if you could make pudding or gazpacho (a cold tomato soup) out of it, since apparently you conceived interconnectedness to be something you can make networks from. Get it? Okay, thought not.

See, humor often relies on a comparison between something postured to be very great, yet, with the recognition of some failure that renders this thing not-so-great, made to seem rather small. Sometimes the item in question is not really so flawed, but rather the flaw is grammatical or accidental, and this flaw is exploited by the chuckle-monger without the intent of actually meaning to disparage the original speaker.

When people note this described discrepancy between item's pretense and its flaw, they sometimes make this odd sound, like "Haw haw haw haw haw," or sometimes they just shake their head and move on to the next post. As the chuckle-monger, I really don't know which most people did in this case, but I at least entertained myself by imagining how silly it would be to have a pudding made from an abstract concept (no sillier than having a "network", whether literal or metaphysical, made from an abstract concept--glucose is made of things that are interconnected, but it is not "interconnectedness", that's just an abuse of thought).

Now that I have defunnied the already not-so-funny, I will move on and let you enjoy your aforementioned lofty pretense, your defense of the notion that pudding can actually be made from interconnectedness, so on and so forth, et cetera. Google image provides me with my final commentary on the thread's subject.



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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7290739 - 08/13/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Could you make sure that you are posting your reply to the right person, because in the thread on "enlightenment" you replied to me, instead of the person who had posted before me..thanks.


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

"Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Grok]
    #7290783 - 08/13/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

SSDD

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Middleman]
    #7290815 - 08/13/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I like SPDP, too, if I grasp your meaning here.

"Same post, different poster."

Even more applicable to the cult forum, but hey. :smile:


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7300667 - 08/16/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

'My point is that you cannot make a "network of interconnectedness"'

No??
When humans decide to bury fiber optic lines in the dirt and...
Fuck!! Nevermind.
The internet!!
Are you serious??

"The infinite vibratory levels, the dimensions of interconnectedness are without end. There is nothing independent. All beings and things are residents in your awareness."
-Alex Grey

This structure wasn't built or formed or created somehow??

"I think what makes us human - is our interconnectedness among people. It's our ability to form and maintain relationships. It's the barometer by which we call ourselves human."
-Thomas Jane

Do you have to make friends?? Do you construct a social network of interconnectedness??

'It's just a redundant, and thus very silly, phrase, originally poised to sound lofty and significant.'

Its a mental picture you pud.

'since apparently you conceived interconnectedness to be something you can make networks from.'

Its not hard to see, if you would remove your crusty opaque shades, that ideas and information are (inter)connected with logic/reason/faith/guesswork to form a network of encoded data that ultimately IS your reality.
Now to call this a network of interconnectedness...
That is what it is.


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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: backfromthedead]
    #7300710 - 08/16/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

backfromthedead, drop the personalisms. If you can't debate the topic without calling a poster insulting names, then go play in OTD, not here.


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Understanding others, and writing them off [Re: Diploid]
    #7300780 - 08/16/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry, I'm done.
Do they have balls over there??



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