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The Meaning of Life
    #7280357 - 08/10/07 06:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

a young disciple asked the the zen master that question and was told to meditate on it for a month and to come back if he didn't find the answer. at the end of the month he returned, and was told to meditate on it for another week, and come back if he still hadn't found he answer. at the end of the week,he returned and was told to meditate on it for one more day and if he still hadn't found the answer to commit suicide.


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to fly to the sun without burning a wing,                              and lie in the meadow and hear the grass sing                                - In Search of the Lost Chord / The Moody Blues - 1968

either we heading for global suicide or the greatest spiritual awakening the world has ever known                                                                                - the introduction to the 1976 edition of Only One Sky / rajneesh


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: 2sky]
    #7280381 - 08/10/07 06:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

imo the 'meaning' of life itself is to stay alive as long as possible and procreate to keep the species alive.

the meaning of someone's life is what they give it themselves









wtf I just posted in P & S :tongue2:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: 2sky]
    #7280442 - 08/10/07 07:43 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

A great way for zen masters to get rid of annoying students. :lol:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: stefan]
    #7280614 - 08/10/07 10:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i like the second line,but you need to look closely at the first line. Those are the conclusions of the ego and they are all based on a fear of death - which is the basis of my earlier post: happiness and growth.


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to fly to the sun without burning a wing,                              and lie in the meadow and hear the grass sing                                - In Search of the Lost Chord / The Moody Blues - 1968

either we heading for global suicide or the greatest spiritual awakening the world has ever known                                                                                - the introduction to the 1976 edition of Only One Sky / rajneesh


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: 2sky]
    #7280675 - 08/10/07 10:51 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Everyone contimplates what is the meaning of life.. What if there is no meaning to life?


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Dephect]
    #7280685 - 08/10/07 10:56 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well, that would depend upon your definition of meaning, now wouldn't it?


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7280724 - 08/10/07 11:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Take your pick..

mean, meant, mean-ing

–verb (used with object) 1. to have in mind as one's purpose or intention; intend: I meant to compliment you on your work.
2. to intend for a particular purpose, destination, etc.: They were meant for each other.
3. to intend to express or indicate: What do you mean by “liberal”?
4. to have as its sense or signification; signify: The word “freedom” means many things to many people.
5. to bring, cause, or produce as a result: This bonus means that we can take a trip to Florida.
6. to have (certain intentions) toward a person: He didn't mean you any harm.
7. to have the value of; assume the importance of: Money means everything to them. She means the world to him.

But hey a man think about it all of his life and still be wrong.. The question is too broad if you ask me..


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Dephect]
    #7280734 - 08/10/07 11:17 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

All those definitions suggest that there is meaning of life. :shrug:

Meaning is a choice that we, as human beings, make. My life has meaning, as I intend for there to be meaning, as I instill purpose within my life. Meaning itself requires consciousness in order to exist.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: 2sky]
    #7280736 - 08/10/07 11:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think it would be more accurate to say "the meanings of life," as it seems clear that we each impose meaning upon our existence.


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Veritas]
    #7280743 - 08/10/07 11:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

*within our existence

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:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7280786 - 08/10/07 11:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I prefer "upon," as it brings to mind an image of someone painting a layer of meaning over reality.  :wink:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Veritas]
    #7280836 - 08/10/07 12:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

we seek meaning in life
meaning is resonance.

seeking the meaning of life is a mistook


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7280855 - 08/10/07 12:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I prefer within, because we bring meaning within our own experience of reality, as reality. We cannot project meaning onto reality, only find meaning within ourselves. :smile:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7280861 - 08/10/07 12:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"Seeking" and "finding" meaning both imply that it is out there or in there, somewhere, rather than arbitrarily manufactured by our own imagination.


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7280865 - 08/10/07 12:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Just as we find love within ourselves, and reach out to our beloved ones. :heart:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7280887 - 08/10/07 12:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
I prefer within, because we bring meaning within our own experience of reality, as reality. We cannot project meaning onto reality, only find meaning within ourselves. :smile:




try not to be tricked by the promise of meaning
on the one hand there are meanings and definitions in dictionaries and manuals, but
when we seek meaning
any connections will do
and as many connections as possible will do better.
much of it is wordless.

meaning as it is yearned for, is just resonance, vibrations, connections.
in the wake of meaning, one has a sense of being in a more secure or familiar place.

the yearning to travel is a funny one
we seek to find the familiar in the far away,
and to make the strange more familiar like that.


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7280923 - 08/10/07 12:33 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I prefer to strive for congruence, rather than meaning. If my actions and thoughts are aligned with my values, I experience the resonance and connection of which you speak.


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: Veritas]
    #7281166 - 08/10/07 01:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you would!


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7281171 - 08/10/07 01:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Doesn't my signature bubble look like a translucent worm?  :wink:


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Re: The Meaning of Life [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7281243 - 08/10/07 02:00 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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All those definitions suggest that there is meaning of life. :shrug:

Meaning is a choice that we, as human beings, make. My life has meaning, as I intend for there to be meaning, as I instill purpose within my life. Meaning itself requires consciousness in order to exist.




What your saying may be true its your life.. but to me life doesnt have a meaning when your six feet under.. So people get the thought that life has a purpose or it means something but it doesnt beacause it can end at any second.. but hey.. life rolls on and what eventually rolls stops so I say live it up because the only meaning in life is eventually death and that is mans final journey..


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