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Magash
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Amsterdam
#7269544 - 08/07/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok, I hear all the time "Shit is as good as the stuff in Amsterdam" or I wish I had the genetics like those they use in Amsterdam. Lets look at the genetics over there. The same shit in the Amsterdam clubs has been pretty much the same for 10 years. Once and a while a new strain blows threw but they never seem to last. Almost every strain there is just a cross of strains started in the U.S.. Bubblegum, Blueberry, Afghani#1, Northern Lights, Haze, and the biggest most used strain on the entire planet or the universe for that matter out of central California good old Skunk #1. The thing is they still don't make the jump in strains that the U.S. does. Lets look at the new big strains starting NYCD, Granddaddy Purple, Purple Kush, OG kush, Blue Dot. What Amsterdam does is mass seed production. Some Amsterdam companies even sell seeds of NYCD, Purple Kush, The Purps. How? These were clone only strains from the U.S.. Simple they take a Purps clone and cross it with a Afghani, Skunk #1, Northern Lights, or whatever and then sell it as The Purps. They just leave out the part where they had to dilute the genetics by half to get the seeds. The Amsterdam clubs are cool fun and great places to visit but the weed quality doesn't come close to most the Clubs in California.
Cali Amsterdam
Any thoughts?
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Nalim
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7269558 - 08/07/07 09:10 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Couldn't say either way as I've never had Cali weed. Tried some from Amsterdam and it was worthless. The only high quality I ever come across is that which I grow myself.
I think it's retarded to use Amsterdam weed as some kind of golden standard though. A lot of the seed-banks send genetics from there, so the genetics are the same in Amsterdam as in any other European city.
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toadstooly
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7269627 - 08/07/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Magash said: Ok, I hear all the time "Shit is as good as the stuff in Amsterdam" or I wish I had the genetics like those they use in Amsterdam. Lets look at the genetics over there. The same shit in the Amsterdam clubs has been pretty much the same for 10 years. Once and a while a new strain blows threw but they never seem to last. Almost every strain there is just a cross of strains started in the U.S.. Bubblegum, Blueberry, Afghani#1, Northern Lights, Haze, and the biggest most used strain on the entire planet or the universe for that matter out of central California good old Skunk #1. The thing is they still don't make the jump in strains that the U.S. does. Lets look at the new big strains starting NYCD, Granddaddy Purple, Purple Kush, OG kush, Blue Dot. What Amsterdam does is mass seed production. Some Amsterdam companies even sell seeds of NYCD, Purple Kush, The Purps. How? These were clone only strains from the U.S.. Simple they take a Purps clone and cross it with a Afghani, Skunk #1, Northern Lights, or whatever and then sell it as The Purps. They just leave out the part where they had to dilute the genetics by half to get the seeds. The Amsterdam clubs are cool fun and great places to visit but the weed quality doesn't come close to most the Clubs in California.
Cali Amsterdam
Any thoughts?
I agree. As far as the seed sales go, they just get a cut of say the purps, and self it. Which is total bullshit. Who wants hermie prone genes? fucking retards.
Alot of the bud in the dam is also ran through a tumbler before being sold, making much of the trichs on the outsides of buds fall off and totally take away from the product.
If you get good genes, read a book or 2 and get some growing under your belt you can easily grow bud better then you will find in the dam. Hell, best bud ive ever smoked came to me in the mail. lol.
but the hookers are cool. plus you can buy shrooms legally. lol.
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Jadian
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7269984 - 08/07/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's just marketing to those who don't know better.
Where are you going to assume better weed comes from if you don't know the difference, the place where it's legal to grow and sell, or places where you get your bags from the guy down the street who gets it from his friend uptown who gets it from....
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kadakuda
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Jadian]
#7270013 - 08/07/07 11:59 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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two words. British Columbia. i dont have many friends in the states but when i visited them and tried their homegrown, it wasn't that great. good, but i am a bc guy, so....perhaps bias.
i have to agree that Amsterdam is more hype...but like said they got mushrooms, peyote oh my.
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: kadakuda]
#7270289 - 08/07/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I get really annoyed with this too. A really close friend of mine has been growing for years, and every few months I come across some straight up amazing pot. The current flavor is Super Silver Haze.... Here is a couple pics. Anyway, I always hear people say this and that about a-dam weed, and everything always has to be compared to a-dam weed.
A few weeks ago a friend actually just got back from touring Europe, and of course he stopped at a coffee shop of two. Well, thats cool as shit and all, but what pisses me off is him saying he smoked the best pot in the world, nothing is ever going to come close around here, and all kinds of shit. The kid talked about it for like an hour straight.
I have never been to Amsterdam, and I'm sure they have some straight up amazing pot if you know where to look.... But I almost guarantee the super silver haze that I drove 15 minutes to get is 10x as good as most of the shit sold at your average coffee shop.
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Edited by Helge (08/07/07 01:16 PM)
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Dexter_Morgan
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7270431 - 08/07/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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your preaching to the choir my friend
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kadakuda
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not a good comparison. just like you or your friend visiting Amsterdam would be buying pot from "whoever" that Amsterdam person coming to California would be buying pot from whoever. coffee shop pt is probably along the lines of "whats on the street" in cali. you have your connections in cali, so you can get better pot. as would the pot fanatic in Amsterdam have their connection to great pot. ya know?
back at home in BC my friends grew some amazing pot, much like your photos. now that pot is FAR different than the shit you buy on the street or even from a friend of a friend type of thing, which is what most tourists would no doubt end up buying.
any dutchy's here to show us the best of their crops? be cool to have a contest of the countries here. the best pot photos from various members home country. presuming there are more than a few non-americans, which there must be.
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: kadakuda]
#7271303 - 08/07/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I thank, everyone should go there at lest once in there life.
Its kind of like beer.Beer you get in the store isn't the same stuff as home brewed beer.
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thedudenj
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7271991 - 08/07/07 09:03 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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i had nothern lights in Amsterdam it was great as good as blue berry afgan i got from a naked old hippie in VT. other then that nothing else has been as good. it lacks the wholesome growth
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CptnGarden
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ive had better pot in fiji than ive ever had in norcal, but the pot in santa cruz and humboldt are actually some of the best buds ive ever tasted and experienced.
norcal is known for its premium.
i dont see how norcal and amsterdam could be any different, unless your comparing plants that are grown outdoors there and plants that are grown outdoors here, otherwise i dont see indoor locations effecting anything.
anyone who gets all into the "amsterdam" hype is definitely seeing the wrong side of things.
its like this thread ...
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7207653#7207653
everyones like "i wish i could go to amsterdam" but its more likely that you will find that kind of pot growing here in the states.
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thedudenj
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7272369 - 08/07/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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true i smoked really good stuff with some belgium and had amazing african hash in france cause my friends wife is african and got it for him.
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Dexter_Morgan
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i think what Magash was trying to get at, is nothing new ever comes from the dutch. they use Skunk #1 in a shit ton of there strains. They destroyed the classic skunk smell too. dutch skunk is sweet. old school skunk smelled like roadkill.]
plus the dutch have a terrible climate to grow bud. give me cali over the netherlands, no contest.
Plus all the cali 'dispensaries' compete against each other. They have access to lots of old school cali genetics. Amsterdam is the 'weed mecca' internationally; they get a shit ton of drug tourism anyway, why would they feel they need come up with something different?
Amsterdam got most of there genetics from cali anyway.
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BlueDruid
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I haven't smoked any weed in the U.S.A. or Canada so can't make any comparisons, though I can vouch for the high quality of some of the weed available in Amsterdam.
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Nalim
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Yeah, and I can vouch for the shitty quality of some weed in the dam and the great quality of some weed in the UK and in Scandinavia. Some weed are great and some are shitty no matter the location.
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BlueDruid
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Just thought I'd ask the question
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thedudenj
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Magash]
#7274566 - 08/08/07 01:58 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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all the people its drawing in tho is starting to reach the point that they are thinking of making drugs illegal to get rid of alot of the wacked out germans and americans but mostly germans. cause they do crazy as shit this is not in any way an insult you germany or the majority of germans just those ones that are causeing the problem
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Jadian
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CptnGarden said: ive had better pot in fiji than ive ever had in norcal, but the pot in santa cruz and humboldt are actually some of the best buds ive ever tasted and experienced.
That's funny because I was having drinks with two of the people that I work with here and one's from Santa Cruz and the other is from Humboldt (weird considering we're on a small little hatchery island in Alaska) and they were both weed idiots
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BlueDruid
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Re: Amsterdam [Re: Nalim]
#7274611 - 08/08/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nalim said: Yeah, and I can vouch for the shitty quality of some weed in the dam and the great quality of some weed in the UK and in Scandinavia. Some weed are great and some are shitty no matter the location.
Quite true. It may just be a matter of range and availability.
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Tomandjerry58
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can't say that ive tried any from cali but i have tried some of the best from the south east region of the usa... which i have to say is some of the best. went to amsterdam a few years back... i tried ak-47, bubble gum, blueberry, white widow and a wide range of hashish that i can't remember the names of. the only thing i can say about amsterdam versus usa is that its legal there. and its definatly cheaper and more readily avalible than in the usa. u can't walk down the street in the usa and find the best strain of white widow for $25 and eight. although cali has that medical mary jane in affect so im sure you can get some pretty bad ass stuff. it all mexican reg here till the harvest season for us.
oh in my opinion the best from amsterdam was the white widow from the doors cafe and blue hawaiin mushrooms i have to give the props to amsterdam until i go to cali and get me a medical card
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