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Re: The Tao [Re: Luke]
    #4577407 - 08/25/05 12:17 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Isnt the flow expanding? In all directions?

Stretching this lil white dwarf in the moment as the moment. Our universe residing on its outer limit, therefore making it a circle residing on the surface of the bubble called UNI-verse as we reside on the surface of this bubble called Earth.

Maybe getting old only means to have ones atomic structures stretched stretched stretched and slowly dissolving due to being stretched too far.

Heh... this boggles my mind. Anyone catching my meaning?


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Re: The Tao [Re: dorkus]
    #4577732 - 08/25/05 02:15 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Heh, did you ever think about the word universe. U n I - verse. You and I verse. A verse about you and I.

Many shamans say life is a song. A verse. :grin:


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Re: The Tao [Re: dorkus]
    #4577780 - 08/25/05 02:38 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

dr_mandelbrot, good deconstruction of language, but you are just floating around on this one

Luke, the force is strong in you.


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Re: The Tao [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4577804 - 08/25/05 02:59 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think yes, we are all the same, that seems like a fact ... the basic situation I guess is ; someone says "we are all the same" ... except those who say "Im not" ... hmmmm


The only fundamental difference i have been able to see, is that some people wake up in the morning happy, go about their "being-human-and-doing-like-the-rest-of-humans" in a happy way ... they smile and laugh and generally live life like they enjoy it.

Then, some people don?t do that ... they s?t at home, complaining and feeling misserable about themselves ... for various reasons ... I can?t judge these reasons,

I remember though, that once I was like that ... I was very bitter, and negative. I didnt like life, and I was scared and felt like everything was just a big lie or joke


but sure, it is all the TAO, or whatever name we chose to name it

Life


you can?t escape it no matter what


but this is not the same as sayin "everything is OK, its all the same, it doesn?t matter what we choose to do or not choose to do"

Its not an excuse to be miserable

or in a way it is ofcourse
, anyone is welcome to think like this if they want to

And sure, they are part of the TAO still, just as we all are

This is really the only difference isnt it : how do you feel abouot it?

And we have the choice to feel good and be happy, or not feel good and not be happy

this has pretty much nothing to do with intelligence and thinking,

except maybe, intelligence and thinking sometimes are quite an obstacle maybe ?


if you feel perfectly happy and content with your life, yourself, your situation, then what would be the point og arguing or proving how "stupid or ignorant" someone else is for believing something naive, or maybe not understanding something as sharply and logically as you do yourself?

Yes, that sums it up pretty good I think

I hope I make sense, I just tried out my new bong


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Re: The Tao [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4577817 - 08/25/05 03:09 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, ok. But isn't it expanding at all?

What do you think of Stephen Hawkings?


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Re: The Tao [Re: dorkus]
    #4577915 - 08/25/05 05:39 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yes everything
that explains gravity too


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Re: The Tao [Re: Luke]
    #4577928 - 08/25/05 05:56 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

It is just chaos.




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Re: The Tao [Re: dorkus]
    #4577930 - 08/25/05 06:00 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Isnt the flow expanding? In all directions?




I image of a river flowing is a metaphore. You are correct also as you are creating an image so your head can talk about what it cannot grasp. Isn't this fun. :grin: The Tao is a laugh a nanosecond. :laugh:


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Re: The Tao [Re: VarthDader]
    #4577931 - 08/25/05 06:02 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Nice bong! Good post. :heart:


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Space [Re: Icelander]
    #4578278 - 08/25/05 09:26 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Space is like a vacuum right? There is no resistence, right.

So who'se to say that empty space itself is actually standing still?
Maybe space, because theres no resistence, is moving around, and cause theres no resistence except some gravity fields there is potential that this space is in fact moving around at very high speeds because of the absence of resistence. Who ever said space was still? Just because we can't see it move, is it really not moving? IF a man takes a shit in a forest and has a blocked nose, does it really stink?
My first thought would be to say that yes, it does stink, but not in the active sense like a verb. In this case, the stink would be merely a pronoun. So space is considered to be static; a noun. Why don't people think of space in terms of it being a verb; you know, space?
Interesting. But this Universe is apparently infinitely expanding.... This empty space, is so empty, even the emptiness isn't there anymore. So of course space is filled with emptiness. And I mean space as a verb, not noun. So its moving around, there's no friction. Its so fast its in fact everywhere already all the time, which, if it wasn't, would mean that there wasn't space for stuff to be in. So its gotta be everywhere the whole time. Space has got a ful time job, though people take it for granted and call it empty, its totally stuffed with possibility, infinite possibility in fact. Which way is the Tao moving? I think in and out... This is really dangerous because in and out are the same thing. I don't really know what my point is, only that space is a verb and not a noun. Nothing is stopping it from moving everywhere, in fact it is everywhereness itself, because it has no weight, no shape, no resistence, this nothingness can potentially move with absolute immediacy an infinite distance, in fact. Its pretty dangerous stuff, altough totally harmless, except if you don't have a planet to stay on...


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Re: Space [Re: Shampioenier]
    #4592600 - 08/28/05 09:13 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yes, after my recent acid trip in sequoia, i realized that i had found a personal place of pure happiness ... but at the same time, every moment i was feeling purely contradictory feelings ... and had the understanding that everything, good and bad, was part of the tao ... i felt that even though i don't agree with a lot of what exists, i realize that all of it must exist for the other to exist ..

and even then, there was the understanding, as i came back to reality, that every thought that i think could really mean nothing in the end ... but only if i choose for it not to :smile:

i find there is so much in life that is exotic, exquisite, worth looking at just a little closer ...

but only with the understanding that, one day, it does end ... and that's not a bad thing ... it's just the nice polar opposite for life ..

coming to peace with it is what makes life suddenly so much lighter ... who cares if it ends ... who doesn't like sleeping in, you know? ... :wink:


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Re: Space [Re: HB]
    #7268554 - 08/06/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

the tao that can be named is not the eternal tao. it is not any one thing, its everything.


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Re: Space [Re: opensaysme]
    #7268667 - 08/06/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

a process cannot be defined because definition is static. the tao is constantly becoming, to reduce it to words is only stopping ones perception of the flow.


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