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Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin
    #7265951 - 08/06/07 11:12 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

That statement's always seemed a little off to me.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: JunkFood]
    #7265956 - 08/06/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Yup  :cigar:


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: JunkFood]
    #7265960 - 08/06/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

That statement doesn't invalidate the fact that heroin withdrawal is much worse than that of nicotine...


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: JunkFood]
    #7265961 - 08/06/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

"Marijuana is more addictive than caffeine"
this statement is also a little off


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: JunkFood]
    #7265962 - 08/06/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Pure nicotine, I believe, is more addictive than pure heroin. Tobacco is not.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: JunkFood]
    #7265964 - 08/06/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yea, no way in hell


ive never seen somone staying up allnight shaking uncontrollable puking/ shitting pissing themsleves from not having a cig


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: JunkFood]
    #7265965 - 08/06/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Well, you'll certainly be addicted longer. Old men smoke cigars/pipes/3 packs of cigarettes a day as a death-wish; 80 year old junkies, unless they discovered heroin at age 79, are not going to be doing anything besides watching grass grow from below.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: Infrared]
    #7265971 - 08/06/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I should try to point out, again, that withdrawal isn't the same thing as addiction.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: trendal]
    #7265973 - 08/06/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hand in hand


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: Infrared]
    #7265992 - 08/06/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine#Dependence

Nicotine is more addictive than heroin because nicotine addiction lasts a hell of a lot longer than heroin. At the provided link it states that the neurological effects can last for months after quitting smoking.

Heroin has a harder withdrawal than nicotine, to be sure, but that only lasts a few days to a week after stopping use.

I'd rather be coming off of nicotine than heroin any day! But that may be because I was addicted to nicotine and have already quit...so I know what's involved in that.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: trendal]
    #7266024 - 08/06/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

actually neurological effects can last months even years with heorin addiction too.. yea the main withdrawl is over with within a week. but it is widely known that symptoms can come and go and be felt months later ... same exact thing. i still dont buy its much worse

quitting ciggarettes was the easiest thing ive ever done


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: Infrared]
    #7266038 - 08/06/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

part of it being more addictive might be the availability of it.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: Infrared]
    #7266040 - 08/06/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

quitting ciggarettes was the easiest thing ive ever done

Well have you quit heroin before?


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: trendal]
    #7266042 - 08/06/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yea


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: lipan]
    #7266044 - 08/06/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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part of it being more addictive might be the availability of it.




Yeah, it'd be a lot easier to quit if you didn't smell/see/hear about it on every street corner, but whatever.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: lukeboots]
    #7266054 - 08/06/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

That reminds me of those times I just walk past random people and they reek of weed :lol:

Then I smoke a bowl ASAP....


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: lukeboots]
    #7266068 - 08/06/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I was a heroin addict for 10 yrs and have kicked many times. Essentially it is harder to quit smoking butt cuz they are everywhere. You can't take a walk in the city without smelling a butt and when you are fiending. Are the physical symptoms worse, absolutely not! Heroin takes the cake on physical misery...but ciggarettes win the prize for psychological addiction coupled with physical addiction. Even if you're broke your brain is telling you that you can end this uncomfortable feeling now by grabbin a snipe from an ashtray....Smoking I trying to quit cuz I just found out I cot the beginning of COPD and im only 28. The cravings along with the psychological attack is far worse than H's misery...in my oppinion.


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: TwiztidShroom]
    #7266077 - 08/06/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I got a vaporizer for my bud, but it getts you way too stoned. I never realized so much THC gets burned when you smoke it. 60 hits off a half a joint worth of weed. Was worth the money. I smoke so little for so long...can't wait for blue mystic...


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Re: Nicotine is more addictive than Heroin [Re: TwiztidShroom]
    #7266109 - 08/06/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I got a vaporizer for my bud, but it getts you way too stoned. I never realized so much THC gets burned when you smoke it. 60 hits off a half a joint worth of weed. Was worth the money. I smoke so little for so long...can't wait for blue mystic...


yea, since most vapes just pass moderately hot air through it, you get a cleaner hit without burning the plant material. Meaning absorption of thc is much easier (and tastier).


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