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Our prayers are with you...
    #7262600 - 08/05/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

How many times do we hear this concerning some tragedy or illness?

Reality takes its own course, but we will attempt to void causality by getting on our knees and mumblings words to ourselves and pretending some caring, non-existent deity will change its mind.

Me no get it.


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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7262623 - 08/05/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

People are used to the idea of someone/something having authority over them. Voila... :shrug:


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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7262895 - 08/05/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

i think true prayer is transmission of healing energy,

false prayer is just mumbo jumbo words in the illusion of mind

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263003 - 08/05/07 04:57 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)



I like this explanation of the power of prayer.

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7263030 - 08/05/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

that guy needs to not have an annoying voice, if he wants me to listen

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: onlynow]
    #7263038 - 08/05/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

You think orgone conclusion has an annoying voice?

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7263040 - 08/05/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

no, the guy on that video you just posted

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263049 - 08/05/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
How many times do we here this concerning some tragedy or illness?

Reality takes its own course, but we will attempt to void causality by getting on our knees and mumblings words to ourselves and pretending some caring, non-existent deity will change its mind.

Me no get it.




As many philosophers and physicists with the mental capacity to work on a metaphorical level have shown time and again that causality is an illusion. It is simply a function of time, which is a concept used to describe the change in an objects position in space. Causality infers that one event is a precursor to another event occurring within a tridimensional creatures limited perception of time. When a person is able to "see the forest from the trees", they recognize the Hindu concept of the Linga Sharira, or Long Body, and the truth behind the invention of Alan Watt's new words "gowith" and "goeswith".

I never "here" this, because I don't try to use prayer to manipulate Reality or the supposed will of the Absolute. But I have heard it used naively. In the same manner with a different perspective, the very same words could altogether hold a much higher wisdom.

Again, you speak in absolutes, as if you hold the "truth" you aim to disprove. The quoted post is riddled with logical fallacies.


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
    #7263061 - 08/05/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I did not watch the video, but what is the point of explaining the power of something with zero efficacy?


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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263064 - 08/05/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Well the video is from http://www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com/

It is a video showing why prayer has no power at all. If you go to the website it has a written explanation that goes into great detail about studies that show prayer has no effect at all and other clever arguments based on the gospels.

I guess you watched only the first few seconds, which sort of sound like its promoting prayer. It's not.

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7263067 - 08/05/07 05:18 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

The quoted post is riddled with logical fallacies.





It is so 'riddled' that despite your lengthy post denying physics and the way everything works in the REAL world, not one was mentioned.

Good job.


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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263111 - 08/05/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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Quote:

The quoted post is riddled with logical fallacies.





It is so 'riddled' that despite your lengthy post denying physics and the way everything works in the REAL world, not one was mentioned.

Good job.




There was no denial of physics, just an inclusion of a higher understanding of physics and an explanation written from a elevated perspective that you've seemingly not discovered. Thanks for the compliment though. And that was a highly successful attempt at diverting attention away from your post. Good job.


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7263117 - 08/05/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup:

what is the "real" world anyways?

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: onlynow]
    #7263184 - 08/05/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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onlynow said:
:thumbup:

what is the "real" world anyways?




Definitions for real:

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re·al1      /ˈriəl, ril/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ree-uhl, reel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. true; not merely ostensible, nominal, or apparent: the real reason for an act.
2. existing or occurring as fact; actual rather than imaginary, ideal, or fictitious: a story taken from real life.
3. being an actual thing; having objective existence; not imaginary: The events you will see in the film are real and not just made up.
4. being actually such; not merely so-called: a real victory.
5. genuine; not counterfeit, artificial, or imitation; authentic: a real antique; a real diamond; real silk.
6. unfeigned or sincere: real sympathy; a real friend.
7. Informal. absolute; complete; utter: She's a real brain.
8. Philosophy.
a. existent or pertaining to the existent as opposed to the nonexistent.
b. actual as opposed to possible or potential.
c. independent of experience as opposed to phenomenal or apparent.
9. (of money, income, or the like) measured in purchasing power rather than in nominal value: Inflation has driven income down in real terms, though nominal income appears to be higher.
10. Optics. (of an image) formed by the actual convergence of rays, as the image produced in a camera (opposed to virtual).
11. Mathematics.
a. of, pertaining to, or having the value of a real number.
b. using real numbers: real analysis; real vector space.
–adverb
12. Informal. very or extremely: You did a real nice job painting the house.
–noun
13. real number.
14. the real,
a. something that actually exists, as a particular quantity.
b. reality in general.
—Idiom
15. for real, Informal.
a. in reality; actually: You mean she dyed her hair green for real?
b. real; actual: The company's plans to relocate are for real.
c. genuine; sincere: I don't believe his friendly attitude is for real.




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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263252 - 08/05/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

thanks brains

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: onlynow]
    #7263256 - 08/05/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Any time... skulls :lol:


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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263261 - 08/05/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

lol

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7263267 - 08/05/07 06:30 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

REALly though, i wouldn't have actually ever thought about trying to understand the real world through definitions

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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: onlynow]
    #7263285 - 08/05/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

So if a friend tells you he ate acid how do you know what he's talking about?


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All this time I've loved you
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Re: Our prayers are with you... [Re: onlynow]
    #7263300 - 08/05/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

You most likely have to have had a firm grasp on reality to see past it....  :wink:


>^;;^<


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