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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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Lakefingers said:
Usually they are not Christians, but defenders of science and rationality.


God bless all defenders of science and rationality! Amen.

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Rhizoid]
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some polarity against Christianity is understandable because it is still run in small sectors and to an extent "at large" in the ways that it used to be when it annihilated science and did a lot of heinous things

but a lot of it that i've noted is just teenage foolhardiness


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Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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Usually they are not Christians, but defenders of science and rationality.


I didn't know that...
And I don't think its entirely true.

First of all, there are other nuances of people (regarding their beliefs or ideologies) from Christians to defenders of science and rationality. There are those who want/try to keep a balance between those two, there are Buddhists, new agers, people who are atheists but don't necessarily sustain science, Muslims and the list could go on.
And each of them, from my own observations can become aggressive when contradicted.
So my suspicion is it's their own personal constructs (personality) which makes them behave like that rather than the ideologies they sustain. Even though in some cases, the type of anger they manifest can relate to their life style they chose.

Also, what I've noticed and I think it's important to point out is that some Christians don't become so angry and defensive is because they seem to be guided by the ancestral principle of "turning the other cheek", which doesn't come from a high sense of awareness or spirituality but from a messianic complex they developed. :shrug:


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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they need to get over their [emotions and attachment to mind]... that is all IMO.


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: onlynow]
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They who?
They who sustain science or they those who become aggressive? :smirk:


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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they who become aggressive. i am totally all for science!


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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also those who are so attached to rationality, that their behavior in turn becomes irrational.

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: onlynow]
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It runs for those attached to the irrational too. :shrug:


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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Very few people on these web forums are Christians and that's why very few Christians get angry.:tongue::monkeydance::tongue:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: MushroomTrip]
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indeed, but the OP was originally talking about rationality.. :shrug::lol:

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: onlynow]
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No, he was talking about being aggressive. :tongue:


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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he said that usually the people who get most aggressive are the defenders of science and rationality.

you really like to argue with me don't you?

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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it's ok, your cute :wink:

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: onlynow]
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Learn how to reply to a specific person. It's not fucking brain surgery.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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oh no... Lakefingers, i didn't mean to call you cute, that was directed to MT.

Icelander, thank you for pointing that out for I would have projected myself falsely.

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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and are you making fun of my brain damage?


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: onlynow]
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onlynow said:
he said that usually the people who get most aggressive are the defenders of science and rationality. 

you really like to argue with me don't you?


No, I like to get things straight.
And with what you said you just proved my point. :smirk:


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: MushroomTrip]
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what that i have brain damage? :lol:

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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This subject interests me mainly because I have been scared away from these forums before just because it seems so male-dominated and aggresive here. Sometimes when I read threads visions of men sword fighting with their genitalia run through my head.

I think young male Christians can be just as intolerant...

My guess is it's all that testosterone seething though them young male bodies (younger men tend to have more, no?)

Higher testosterone levels = higher desire for dominance

An interesting article Scientific American told me so:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=7DE01F25-E7F2-99DF-30D2199FCD555450

Yeah, it seems kind of obvious, but as a women, it's nice to keep in mind when occasionally baffled by male behavior.


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: sadspacemonkey]
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:thumbup:

Please don't be scared. We need you here. Men are such scaredy cats really and they can't reach out through the internet. Just don't buy the  bull:poop:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Icelander]
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Haha thanks :heart:

I'll keep my nose open for the bull :tongue:


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: sadspacemonkey]
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Yeah, and I'm baffled by woman behavior. It goes both way.

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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Lakefingers said:
I haven't digested most webforums that I've tried well. Even newsgroups
for people passionately interested in small areas of knowledge that I
think are fun attack each other. These attackers and bad name throwers are
professors and PhD students.


I've never really involved myself in any sort of online community either. I often join and just lurk. I find it really interesting to read through forums, partially because I'm very introverted and don't have a chance to talk to different kinds of people nearly as much as I'd like to. But yes, the attacks throw me off, especially when they're delivered with such cut-throat confidence and backed up with a body of knowledge that faaaar exceeds my own. Then I get all "well, what the hell do I know- I'd be better off reading a book right now"


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There is something about young males wanting to get their opinions out,
because no one will listen to them.


Hrmm...sounds like someone I know.

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Be wary of Scientific American. Lots of presuppositions in their science
that those writers'll never be able to question.


Reading it is my way of baby-stepping towards science. I've always been more of an English and liberal arts kind of person, but now I feel utterly fed up with all the BS papers I write. I'm interested in science, but I guess I'm going with the stuff that's easier for me to understand considering I have such a weak background. But it's a good warning to keep in mind- it's mainstream, I suppose, so they'll have stay in the box to a certain extent.

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If we glance quickly through gender studies literature we'll see excellent
arguments for and empirical studies supporting how male violence is
for the most part (if not fully) a "cultural construct". Now I'll drink
some water to rinse my mouth out...or wash my typing hands off...


I was referring more to dominance than violence...though the two things often overlap.

The "male-ness" I refer to in terms of dominance is something I think men and w women can possess BTW. I just think hormones definitely make a difference, though a person isn't a slave to or defined by that physical aspect.


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: MushroomTrip]
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MushroomTrip said:
I like to get things straight.


:lipsrsealed:


>^;;^<


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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: PhanTomCat]
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PhanTomCat said:
MushroomTrip said:
I like to get things straight.


:lipsrsealed:


>^;;^<


:strokebeard: :lol:


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: sadspacemonkey]
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sadspacemonkey said:
I just think hormones definitely make a difference,


An acquaintance of mine had a sex change operation a few years ago. Female-to-male. She was medicated with a lot of hormones during the transition, and she/he said that it was a big surprise for him to experience the constant horniness that is included in the typical experience of being a male.

A positive side effect for me was that my wife showed a bit more understanding for my "needs" after hearing this story. :wink:

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Re: Young males and webforums [Re: Lakefingers]
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Young males get angry BUT

I would take your theory a step further...

Its people as a whole - they start off, as children, completely open-minded to the world because they are learning whats around them.

The problem comes when they stop learning, they think because they've built up a reasonable logic map in their heads that they've worked out everything!

I notice that the older the person gets the more insane this defense of old logic maps becomes! Try telling and old person something different about their point of view - they will not accept it (there are exceptions) they will come out with more and more shit to defend their old ideas and may even get angry if you really have good evidence for your case.

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