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 TM
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 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? 
#725902 - 07/06/02 04:28 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Guys please give me some insight;
I 'noc'd 12 pre-made pint jars from Bagman (Spore Haven) with 3 different strains from 2 other vendors - (4) of 'em with B+ from Boxtop/Butterfly (TLG), (4) with Creeper (TLG) and (4) with Thai KS from Ryche (THE). I shook the hell out of the syr's to break up the obvious spore clumps. I used about 2.5cc's in each jar, 4 'noc' points against the glass and covered the jars with aluminium foil. They are in THIS incubator and being kept at 80-84 degrees.
In 16 days, 2 of the B+ and 2 of the Creeper jars each have 2 possible spots of growth, but they're barely noticable if even really there at all. The 4 Thai KS jars show absolutely nothing (same as the other 4 jars).
I also have a rye berry bag in the 'bator 'noc'd with Cambodian (Homestead) that's almost fuly colonized in 9 days. 
Do I have bad spore syr's or bad jars? Did I not use enough juice? What could be wrong? Is it time to notify Bagman, Ryche and Butterfly? 
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 walt
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 Re: 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? [Re: TM]
#725942 - 07/06/02 04:56 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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pre-made pint jars. lazy and expensive.
did you wipe needle with alchohal prior to injection.
the creepers should be finished. tlg spores kick ass.
i just pour alchohal over needle before i begin innoc. and in between jars.
probably should do it in between innoc points.
order more spores. i had a similiar problem a month ago.
if you are looking for signs of growth after two weeks on brf/verm.
i say toss em.
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TM
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Re: 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? [Re: walt]
#725948 - 07/06/02 05:02 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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I was very sterile. I used the oven tek and flamed the needles with a small butane torch. There's no sign of contams, but no growth either.
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns
I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss.
TM™
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walt
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Re: 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? [Re: TM]
#725949 - 07/06/02 05:06 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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figured you were pretty sterile when i saw 300+ posts.
i bet those pre-mixed jars were not good.
or could have been thermal death.
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TM
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Posts: 8,282
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Re: 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? [Re: walt]
#725951 - 07/06/02 05:08 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Never went over 90 degrees so I highly doubt that.
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns
I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss.
TM™
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SixTango
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Re: 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? [Re: TM]
#725993 - 07/06/02 05:55 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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TM,
You say it never went over 90F -- where your at. At 90F, if the shipment was in a van, truck or placed in a outside mailbox -- in direct sun, the shipment could have been subjected to 106F ++ for a considerable time.
Not long ago, after getting some syringes from a reputable vendor -- that would not colonize anything. The Racoon tried to figure out why they were not viable.
He placed a thermometer in his mailbox when the ambiant outside temp was around 90F. The inside of that closed mailbox was around 120F. The shipment that failed the Raccoon sat in that mailbox for about 5 hours. Just park a car in direct sunlight w/windows closed tight. It gets VERY HOT inside -- quick.
Premade jars? Could add to that shit happens potential. You just don't know. Try again with your own jars & fresh spores. Good luck.
Shit happens.  SixTango
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TM
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Re: 16 Days - Almost Nothing - What's Wrong? [Re: SixTango]
#726011 - 07/06/02 06:15 AM (22 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah, Six, I thought of that too... I'm sure I can get the spores replaced. I hope I can get at least a partial refund from Bagman 'cause the jars seem really dry. I guess if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. All I need is some whole grain brown rice. I have everything else. I have to get off my ass and do some damn grinding, mixing and sterilizing!
I was really hoping to bust some of those cakes into the horse poo by now, dammit!
Well, off to the local health food store!!
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns
I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss.
TM™
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