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thedudenj
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psychedelic patterns
#7252809 - 08/02/07 07:43 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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ever notice the same time of year on this site people ask about the same things and then there alot of new people that ask it too and then someone says and then a good deal of them never come back others stay and they arguee about what they were told. i really dont like the guy that created this site so im here to say its all about the mushrooms and should be but its not. at the same time look thru the archives notice the tends in psychedelic uses its a pattern a frac-tell pattern of Fact-tell which is optional thus opinion you should ask yatin why i was banned, cause i used magic to have is computure shut down the site so i was un banned and thats in the archieves as well. look how long i was suppose to be banned for an how long i really was. he stood against everything this site now stands for.
i have wicked strong magic and its not from drugs just fractels. aka magic portals aka ports of telling. and i can to it thru tele empathy on everyone existing plane. socrates did the same thing and was killed i came so say i drank that poison and many others so im not dying im gona spread his message and you cant stop me
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7252822 - 08/02/07 07:48 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're insane.
Nice avatar though
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7252840 - 08/02/07 07:53 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm starting to see a pattern here...
cant say its psychedelic ...
...post after post of nothing but mumbling and rants
eat another shroom dude..
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Legoulash
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I like psychedelic patterns
dmt 4hodmt lsd
where u saying somthin dude?
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7252912 - 08/02/07 08:16 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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L S D Da DEE da do um bop dee dhop do beep beep bop bop bep. 10001010. if you cant understand fractels then dont use them. but you cant not use em cause all life is a fractel listen to time wave zero by mc kenna its perfect and thats why he says everything is on track! i am a silver surfer using cosmic powers to ride the waves of probablity via novelty and time.
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7253030 - 08/02/07 08:44 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: i am a silver surfer using cosmic powers to ride the waves of probablity via novelty and time.
You make absolutely no sense... but I love that quote.
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7255672 - 08/03/07 02:11 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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terrance Mc Kenna made a chart that tracks time and novelity and i say that i gave it to him and tricked him with it so he died so i could come into this world and explain what the space alien said. cause he just followed them til his grave. i am one
i will ad this all the shroomery supporters that are ones paid for my supporter acount i used my free points and went into debt and then yatin moved that function cause im magical lol. like when he banned me it didnt work
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
Edited by thedudenj (08/03/07 02:40 PM)
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7255971 - 08/03/07 03:17 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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fucking hell.
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7255993 - 08/03/07 03:22 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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mayans say everything is hell and demons will trick you and if you have the most tradgic death your not in hell so i die really slow and tragically
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256037 - 08/03/07 03:33 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256408 - 08/03/07 05:21 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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http://www.gethappy.com/watchmore.html this one is better but im not gona sell it im gona give it for free like the artist that made it and not his clay art man
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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yageman
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256489 - 08/03/07 05:47 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey dude, its spelled "fractal". Do you really know this much about something you cant spell?
Anyways, I cant wait till im old enough to finally feel ways about stuff....like dudenj. -------------------------------------------------- In dude speak:
hey dude its spelled fractel. you really know much about something you cant spell anyways I cant wait till im old enouhg to feel ways about stuff. like dudenj
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (08/03/07 05:48 PM)
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: yageman]
#7256505 - 08/03/07 05:54 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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yageman said: In dude speak:
hey dude its spelled fractel. you really know much about something you cant spell anyways I cant wait till im old enouhg to feel ways about stuff. like dudenj
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256543 - 08/03/07 06:08 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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well thats the point spelling isnt nessacary as long as the point is still there if you cant get the point and i spell perfect and have prefect grammer then its a waste of my time...
i use anceint spellings and grammer and everyone here is trying to under stand anceint life and complain im slowly teaching them it in a way that they can understand when im done. so maybe they dont want me to finish maybe they want to cling to their ways yet cant help but to want to know why.
shamans became popular on this site so people called me a shaman.
all i do is try to bring back the old life when people were happy using every tool i can use then when their happy help them maintain it as i do. i maintain mine by doing this and its my job cause your true job you do for free cause its your true job as aristotal said. socrates said it too so he was killed and aristotal said it in a way so he wouldnt be killed. i use mental vibrations. you read what i type and make it vibe in your mind. when i speak in person tho people say that im so much greater and gather around me and want to join me so im here to say meet me totally by random so you didnt know you met me so you can try to argue that im better in person cause someone did this in person better then you and really its just me in person. its a fractel pattern lol. since i dont have a college degree job yet i work in a factory right now and i do the same thing there. and they dont have me work much they maybe ask me to move one or 2 light boxes then have me speak about stuff and other workers come over to hear too. then they all talk about it with each other come back to me to say what they though about it. cause they cant just stand around me to long cause they gotta get the work done too. and we do it together having fun. cause its a USA factory there are far too many workers then needed things are really ass backwards inefficent. so 5 guys can do the job of one so we do it slow and use the time we are doing it so to socially interact in a tottally far out groovey funky way and we listen to the radio and get paided.
people tell me to write a book so this is my interactive book. that you can rewrite or edit and im in it too and you are it to its a super auto biography about everything that botheres people. so i become the most pain in the ass aka a medicine man why do you think the ice man was killed and other ones werent. this is my job and i do it well so well its hard to tell so you ask my function and i function by indirectly directing. like peter fonda in easy rider. cause i live that i have done everything in that movie in real life and people have the same respones except i dont take money for it unless its forced on to me and you really want to pay me even tho i said you dont have to.
thus a fact tell fractel fractal tell all frac fuck tell all to fuck? what did he say? why? who? what? where? caused this? wow!?!?!?! oh! ok! yes! thank you but dont go away!
in my daily life in person i do it on small scale cause i also have to deal with 10 dimensional world we live in so here i do it on a 2D world plus a third dimension of time. aka im a demenisonal travel a inter one a inter-dimensional traveler that is out side of this box. i live on a sphere in a vast nothingness filled with everything thus more then 3d world but people think its 3d till i use tele empathy on em which causes telempathy and phsyic links. where they know stuff right when it happens or before it happens thru mirrors being used as portals. and bactiria are a living portal every where i shirnk my self and stuff its great!
chaos mage aka shaman aka druid aka medicine man.
if you disagree voice your opinion and explain what a medicine man is to you and how it works cause this is how i work. i have seen how some of the others work and they arent as good as me. so im here to beat them at their own game cause its my job and if its truely thier job to i join forces and we work together! i have druids on my side and native american ones
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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TTT
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256613 - 08/03/07 06:38 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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what the fuck.
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yageman
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256616 - 08/03/07 06:39 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Im not so sure the point is still there.
Your rants suck.
Its highly ironic that you even mention aristotle considering the way you write.
Logic is very important. Fractals are nothing but perfect math. Speaking is like series of numbers. Your numbers dont jive together, and that makes them illogical.
All sorts of contradictions. I dont think you get if/then statements very well to say the least.
Also, alot of good could come of you, "learning how to write good". Somehow you disagree with that whole idea though.
You seeming retarded is all some part of your grand plan. I see.......lol
If you are going to waist your time, you might as well not waist anyone elses. Some how, paradoxically, you feel that writting in a coherent mannor would be a waist of your time. Now thats just faulty logic. To assume that people would even begin to read that crap is just insane.
So "connect the molecules to the light", or keep seeming like a crazy asshole who cant write and doesnt respect those who may read this drivel.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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MrKite1
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7256625 - 08/03/07 06:42 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Please exercise concise paragraph breaks; it's really very easy.
Just Hit 'Enter'
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well thats the point spelling isnt nessacary as long as the point is still there if you cant get the point and i spell perfect and have prefect grammer then its a waste of my time...
Often no one bothers to find the point if everything leading up to it looks worthless. What is your point though?
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yageman
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: MrKite1]
#7256655 - 08/03/07 07:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Here comes dudenj.
Within 5 minutes, he will speak again and hopefully this time it will make sense!
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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AnotherDimension
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: yageman]
#7256732 - 08/03/07 07:31 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hilarious. It amuses me to see thedudenj and yageman argue, considering they are two of my favorite characters.
I'm convinced that the thedudenj is just a personality created for the purpose of posting on this forum. He writes what sounds like mad ranting, but look deeper:
1. In breaking down 'fractal' he referenced his previous deconstruction "fractal = fact + tell" and then played with the word, frac, immediately using 'fuck'. Battlestar Galactica reference? Exactly.
2. He starts babbling about a 10 dimensional world. Sounds remarkably close to the current string theory beliefs.
Basically, his character is good at linking random things from life together in a sort of (in)coherent ranting. Much like the hippies of old
And yageman, you write much more clearly and constructively. But be careful.... if you attack someone's grammar/spelling, you should proof-read your own writing!
waist is not the same as waste
Reread your post! I wouldn't mention it other than you were ranting about spelling. Misuse of homonyms!
No hate here, you all make this site worth visiting!
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yageman
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I am one of the few who can understand his writings and would even bother to try. I like dudenj, and thats why what you say means little to me, and you dont know the half of it.
10 dimentions. Yep thats superstring(sort of). Superstring thus far has nothing to do with what he says.
He likes to leave only bread crumbs, writes like an asshole, and I think that is really lame. I dont find him as interesting as I used to. A while back, im one of the only people who you would find defending this clusterfuck of nonsense that the dude often writes on his holy computer.
I dont edit my posts for grammar or spelling because they say what they mean and are easy to read. I think you missed the point of my rant.
Im just trying to get dudenj to stop being a fucking clown. If he takes psychedelics so seriously, then that trait is not represented here.
I want him to seem like less of a clown. "connect the molecules to the light", or some such shit.
You are right about my spelling. Im drunk and was never a terribly good speller when it comes to the more simple words. One of my favorite songs is called "waste". I should have picked up on my own error. Its still readable though. Just because I made an obvious spelling mistake doesnt mean anything in this case. That was an astute observation though. Sorry I was so careless!
In all honesty I think the dude Is a fucking joke at this point. What were his motives for this thread?
Ranting and raving about his stake here at the shroomery and why he acts like a total moron sometimes?
I dont get it.
He is a clown. I stick up for people who have fun like that. However, when considering the things he thinks he is trying to get across to people, I dont buy it because his method is terrible. In a way, its evil because it is so elusive. How dare he talk of such things while making no sense in such a flighty way?
I mean well and like the dude in certain ways. So fuck off AnotherDimension.
I just think you are contributing to his ridiculous behavior here. I said what I meant.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (08/03/07 08:12 PM)
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yageman
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: yageman]
#7256909 - 08/03/07 08:15 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I made two spelling errors while writing that.
Fixing that must have been a "waist" of my time.
Im just looking out for this guy, because if he is this bad at short hand writing skills, he needs to learn about that.
He needs to know that there are better ways to talk about such crazy shit.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: yageman]
#7257151 - 08/03/07 09:10 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, this thread is one of the most comical I've seen in a while.
And I thought you spelled "waist" like that on purpose yage. I assumed it was another example of dudespeak.
But yeah, I totally agree. I think the dude has obviously been through a lot and has a lot that he could potentially teach people on here. I just don't get half the shit he writes. I actually did take the time to skim through that last long post of his and when I got to the end of it I wondered why.
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7257341 - 08/03/07 10:02 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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well exaclty yage man does what i do. you but hes saying i should make my modern art a bit more like his. this is a message to watch time wave zero... and colors of infitity so you understand. ok ok so maybe when i speak to people in the flesh i use great great grammar and spelling doesnt exist when your speaking in person... its just grammer. and grammer varies depending on where you are. when im in person i can speak to a german person in very grammatic german. same with any indo european lang. english is german,french and a bunch of hog(american poeple making up words so they are on top)wash(brain washing). i sit and use the most basic langs. so if you read it it has a deffinate meaning, yet many at the same time. and they all in some strange way have the same meaning tho it may not seem. syd barrett was a master of this and he made mad money and died the most lonely person... if your a grammer goblin it will eat you in the end. so speak in a way everyone can relate to slightly today i sat with a black man,a jew, and white germanic dude, and introduced novelty and they argueed and agreed and loved it. this is a novel world, this is a narrative,so we dialectic. we use what we can to spead our message. we use patterns like grammer to do this. im sitting here to say well what if i introduce my own pattern made of many patterns that overlap like a web diagram
if you think this is a waist of time then your waist must be wide and you have a full belly
im not in that photo i took it
a coyote tried to use fractel gainst me
i followed a pack of them for 3 hours while on cactus. people dont want to belive that so i took pics with my camera phone tho there are the peeps the belive it reguardless of if they say the pics cause the know me as a person in the 3D world
those people in the pic are random french people that hated americans and refused to speak english said they didnt but then one of them did whoes not in the pic either. and then they all knew it was cool that i didnt speak french and was american. so they gave me thier hash,BBQ,beer,played soccer with me, and offered me sex. thats the french way. this site is american so im super elussive my elussiveness depends on where your standing if your right next to me i dont appear it at all. i blend in anywhere i go. so i come here cause this is deffinatly one place its really hard to blend in to i blend stuff here. i bend lights, shape shifts, shift shape, light bend and act like everything i know so far and adapative in my light based adaptive camo.
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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yageman
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7257431 - 08/03/07 10:18 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thats fine.
I got it.
A waist of time is to say such things and say it so foolishly.
I respect what you say. That has little to do with why I post in this thread though.
What I say has little to do with the content I extrapolated from that word salad series.
Just trying to teach you how to make your own words here more useful.
Im not being dishonest in any way.
I really mean this.
Cool posts man, bad form................
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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thedudenj
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7257498 - 08/03/07 10:32 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol i know thats why im here to hear. what people are saying is and isnt psychedelic. so i use many differnt psychedelic forms. and i know tia chi,reiki,shotokan,go gu ru, kyoshinki, ninjitsu, toad style, amanita style , gym style, cube style, datura style, huasca style, tea style, turtle style and many more cause the list goes on like history stlye, biology style, mayan death style, trade style, farm style, philosphy style,pychology style, shiva style,kali style, shiva and kali style. and each day i get more and hone em more but the truth is the only reason i can learn them is cause i already know them do to. fractel time. people choose to hold onto time and i go where they can or cant go in time. i was at the D day beaches in modern time and an old man that was 5 when the invasion happened cried on my shoulder in the cemetary cause he saw all the tanks and planes and mayhame he heard all the death and destruction. and all he was doing while i was happening was sitting in his back yard playing with toy trucks. i went to the D day ceromny and you know what it was just a novelity. people walked around dressed as the soliders i was in a war musuem and a guy dressed up was leaning on a jeep and i thought he was just another dummy doll. i had a histroy professor of WW2 explain stuff, people that were their, and relics of it. and now some kid wants to play that on his computer. cause there man no one gets hurt but people really do just their mind not their body and they forget what it was like to buy someone that wasnt there or really cares that much other then making money. i went to the underground bunker church hill had. and theres patterns to how everything was and it was perceivable thru the mind. and people warped it. time warping and layering and lapping and thought loops. we have a war so if people want to relive that they can do it with better weapons and for an even more crazy reason its fucking war. its a butterfly too. sitting in your chair is a butterly too. cause your not at that battle.
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
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AnotherDimension
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: yageman]
#7257606 - 08/03/07 11:00 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am one of the few who can understand his writings and would even bother to try. I like dudenj, and thats why what you say means little to me, and you dont know the half of it.
I agree. I started with the word 'hilarious' in a positive manner, not a negative one. I truly meant either 'entertaining' or 'comically amusing' in a non-derogatory sense, because both of you, I mean you and thedudenj, are positive from my perspective. I admit, I don't presume to know any history you have between you.
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10 dimentions. Yep thats superstring(sort of). Supersting thus far has nothing to do with what he says.
Well, I may have been just grasping at straws. I provided my theory, and I could be totally off-base. Pure speculation, but he may be more informed than he presents himself.
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He likes to leave only bread crumbs, writes like an asshole, and I think that is really lame. I dont find him as interesting as I used to. A while back, im one of the only people who you would find defending this clusterfuck of nonsense that the dude often writes on his holy computer.
Yes! I totally agree. I believe that regardless of personality, in such a group setting as this, what you transmit or can 'spread to others' is more beneficial than merely 'making a presence' (i.e. less ego, more information transferal)
Not presuming to assume things for you, but before you look at me and think "What new idiot is this with some-teen posts or what-not?"
Please realize that I have not been around for the 'forum software transitions'. I mean that i have not been able to preserve my name from days of old (when longer user names were allowed), and at that time I had thousands of posts. So, i am an 'old school soldier' as my whatever currently reads. Anything I posted then only registers as anonymous though (if it even shows). All i'm saying is that i believe in the purpose of this site (stop the spread of disinformation and provide information.
No 'status' here or anything being claimed, just wanted to point out that i've observed the goings-on here since before this site existed independently, (i.e. several years before the new millenium), and you are one of the few users I'd care to even converse with from what I've read recently. I probably (and unfortunately) do you a dis-service with that statement, yageman, as I see true wisdom in what I read from you, and given whatever self-granted 'longevity' i give myself, I try to learn from your experience whenever i can.
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I dont edit my posts for grammar or spelling because they say what they mean and are easy to read. I think you missed the point of my rant.
I apologize, but I don't think I missed your point. I agree that your posts are easy to read and you say what you mean. I just wanted to say that by attacking spelling (even if justified) it draws attention to your own spelling. I wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise. I am so used to state of the 'internet' nowadays that i don't often comment on spelling or grammar. However, I agree with the point of your rant, of which spelling is of no matter.
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You are right about my spelling. Im drunk and was never a terribly good speller when it comes to the more simple words. One of my favorite songs is called "waste". I should have picked up on my own error. Its still readable though. Just because I made an obvious spelling mistake doesnt mean anything in this case. That was an astute observation though. Sorry I was so careless!
I drink as well, and i know what comes with the territory I agree that your point was entirely understandable, and i didn't intend to draw away from it. i am quite the music fan though, so please let me know who performs 'waste' as this site is one of my prime sources of decent music! many good albums have been found from leads provided here (in the awful sea of modern music!)
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Im just trying to get dudenj to stop being a fucking clown. If he takes psychedelics so seriously, then that trait is not represented here.
I want him to seem like less of a clown. "connect the molecules to the light", or some such shit.
I agree. thedudenj, whether authentic or pseudonym, should furthur the purpose of this site and be authentic in his words, if not being.
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He is a clown. I stick up for people who have fun like that. However, when considering the things he thinks he is trying to get across to people, I dont buy it because his method is terrible. In a way, its evil because it is so elusive. How dare he talk of such things while making no sense in such a flighty way?
Yes, as I said, I think given the purpose of this site, he should focus on upholding the ideals, which would include, on his part, communicating more clearly.
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I mean well and like the dude in certain ways. So fuck off AnotherDimension.
Dems fightin' words! Chill out, it is all good. I tried to be nonconfrontational in my post, and I may have done you an injustice in my writing. If so, I apologize. My intent was to say that I learn from your posts and appreciate your presence here. I've seen quite a lot in my time (a lot of time here as well) and I didn't mean any ill will towards you. But I can roll with the punches, so "No harm, no foul"?
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I just think you are contributing to his ridiculous behavior here. I said what I meant.
I only take exception to this! I do not, in any way, mean to contribute to any 'ridiculous' behavior. If, thedudenj's behavior, is instructive, even in an unorthodox manner, i'll support it. However, if it is misleading or merely distracting, I do denounce it.
So, let it be known
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7257636 - 08/03/07 11:07 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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well 10 stings ruled by one... wait jews said that along time ago... sephiroth ... tree of life ... forbiddin fruit verse normal fruit... 11th dimension that doesnt exist. omg what if we use what doesnt exist but how can we theres only what exists....
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I made two spelling errors while writing that.
Fixing that must have been a "waist" of my time.
Im just looking out for this guy, because if he is this bad at short hand writing skills, he needs to learn about that.
He needs to know that there are better ways to talk about such crazy shit.
I wholeheartedly agree.
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Wow, this thread is one of the most comical I've seen in a while.
And I thought you spelled "waist" like that on purpose yage. I assumed it was another example of dudespeak.
But yeah, I totally agree. I think the dude has obviously been through a lot and has a lot that he could potentially teach people on here. I just don't get half the shit he writes. I actually did take the time to skim through that last long post of his and when I got to the end of it I wondered why.
Me too!
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well exaclty yage man does what i do. you but hes saying i should make my modern art a bit more like his. this is a message to watch time wave zero... and colors of infitity so you understand.
Ha! I don't understand
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ok ok so maybe when i speak to people in the flesh i use great great grammar and spelling doesnt exist when your speaking in person... its just grammer. and grammer varies depending on where you are.
To a point... but grammar is not spelled 'grammer'!
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when im in person i can speak to a german person in very grammatic german. same with any indo european lang. english is german,french and a bunch of hog(american poeple making up words so they are on top)wash(brain washing).
To a point! But you cannot denounce American ghetto-speak while at the same time ignoring all rules of language!
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i sit and use the most basic langs. so if you read it it has a deffinate meaning, yet many at the same time. and they all in some strange way have the same meaning tho it may not seem.
Which is why I defend you in the first place!
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syd barrett was a master of this and he made mad money and died the most lonely person... if your a grammer goblin it will eat you in the end. so speak in a way everyone can relate to slightly today i sat with a black man,a jew, and white germanic dude, and introduced novelty and they argueed and agreed and loved it.
Money is totally separate from truth. And grammar is only important as it speaks to clear understanding. The racial differences of your audience are not important for that very reason... all are human and of equal understanding.
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this is a novel world, this is a narrative,so we dialectic. we use what we can to spead our message. we use patterns like grammer to do this. im sitting here to say well what if i introduce my own pattern made of many patterns that overlap like a web diagram
A dialectic of essence even!
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if you think this is a waist of time then your waist must be wide and you have a full belly
Not at all... more word play. You pun-master, you!
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those people in the pic are random french people that hated americans and refused to speak english said they didnt but then one of them did whoes not in the pic either. and then they all knew it was cool that i didnt speak french and was american. so they gave me thier hash,BBQ,beer,played soccer with me, and offered me sex. thats the french way. this site is american so im super elussive my elussiveness depends on where your standing if your right next to me i dont appear it at all. i blend in anywhere i go. so i come here cause this is deffinatly one place its really hard to blend in to i blend stuff here. i bend lights, shape shifts, shift shape, light bend and act like everything i know so far and adapative in my light based adaptive camo.
Sounds like a good plan! Go French?!?!
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Thats fine.
I got it.
A waist of time is to say such things and say it so foolishly.
I respect what you say. That has little to do with why I post in this thread though.
What I say has little to do with the content I extrapolated from that word salad series.
Just trying to teach you how to make your own words here more useful.
Im not being dishonest in any way.
I really mean this.
Cool posts man, bad form................
I guess I agree. Cool posts, but bad form... even that seems harsh.
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lol i know thats why im here to hear. what people are saying is and isnt psychedelic. so i use many differnt psychedelic forms. and i know tia chi,reiki,shotokan,go gu ru, kyoshinki, ninjitsu, toad style, amanita style , gym style, cube style, datura style, huasca style, tea style, turtle style and many more cause the list goes on like history stlye, biology style, mayan death style, trade style, farm style, philosphy style,pychology style, shiva style,kali style, shiva and kali style. and each day i get more and hone em more but the truth is the only reason i can learn them is cause i already know them do to.
You prove my point, random martial arts and drug references....
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fractel time. people choose to hold onto time and i go where they can or cant go in time. i was at the D day beaches in modern time and an old man that was 5 when the invasion happened cried on my shoulder in the cemetary cause he saw all the tanks and planes and mayhame he heard all the death and destruction. and all he was doing while i was happening was sitting in his back yard playing with toy trucks. i went to the D day ceromny and you know what it was just a novelity. people walked around dressed as the soliders i was in a war musuem and a guy dressed up was leaning on a jeep and i thought he was just another dummy doll. i had a histroy professor of WW2 explain stuff, people that were their, and relics of it. and now some kid wants to play that on his computer. cause there man no one gets hurt but people really do just their mind not their body and they forget what it was like to buy someone that wasnt there or really cares that much other then making money. i went to the underground bunker church hill had. and theres patterns to how everything was and it was perceivable thru the mind. and people warped it. time warping and layering and lapping and thought loops. we have a war so if people want to relive that they can do it with better weapons and for an even more crazy reason its fucking war. its a butterfly too. sitting in your chair is a butterly too. cause your not at that battle.
Wow.... i'm not arguing. I think there is wisdom in your writing, just mostly hidden. And to further prove yageman's point, you may hide it so well as to be useless! Care, young grasshopper!
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7257697 - 08/03/07 11:25 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quit responding before I have a chance
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well 10 stings ruled by one...
careful, Lord of the Rings reference? "One ring to rule them all"
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wait jews said that along time ago... sephiroth ...
Um, mistype or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII, or video game reference???
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tree of life ... forbiddin fruit verse normal fruit... 11th dimension that doesnt exist.
Christian mythology/history vs. string theory again????
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omg what if we use what doesnt exist but how can we theres only what exists....
Isn't this the question at the root of every philosophy?
The more you respond... the more I agree with yageman!
Please, try to provide direction to those who read, don't merely serve as a distraction along the road.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7257704 - 08/03/07 11:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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i use orginal getho speak. and not the jews that esacped gemany that lived in those gethos they just were trying to copy my ness and called it getho so a bunch of people use it to measure toughness.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
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i use orginal getho speak.
And that's why i support you!
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and not the jews that esacped gemany that lived in those gethos
The original ghetto... warsaw, poland, never cracked!
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they just were trying to copy my ness and called it getho so a bunch of people use it to measure toughness.
What?!?!? This statement is extremely maligned. Did you just insult the entire Jewish struggle by saying that they imitated you in a 'front' to appear tough? The Jewish struggle for survival in Europe is not up for debate. You crossed the line of decency here! Please, study your history, and cease to insult the struggle for freedom in the semi-modern world.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
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the strugle exists too when some american guy has a asain slave girl aka as when the wild west was first won. they were starved,beaten,raped by many men, so what about all the fucking gypses that died oh wait they were jews right no they fucking werent but they supported egypt so much they went there came back and taught it so hitler could come and kill them then do it him self. so dont say its the JEWISH strugle go tell king tut who said let the slaves go and was murdered for it that its the jew strugle. o yeah moses came along a JEW and said im your savior. but wait he said it was about god, eygpts god at that time was the ghost of tut. so the jew struggle exist for a reason. you want to be king tut dont bitch about it. i talked to a jew today and he had no problem some other dude thought he would so he had me repeat what i said to him. and that was real he said well it was bad but for good to exist bad must so lightly do both and i said exactly how can we know extreme if we say it doesnt exist. we know it exist medicine men in places hang them self with hooks on their back in the hot desert sun starving for 3 days. anyone can surive those conditions and no it shouldnt be forced.
so if you think im too far then judism is nothing about having the biggest cut and nothing about god. if you a true one you say it was a big lesson to learn yes it was painful but you know im here now and i know that and other people know that so im alive. the sacrfical lamb of god. dont be it if you are gona complain about it
and to go a step further whats it matter they are in the kingdom of god and your not their for a reason. so yes i read that book and i know who the real aryains are and hitler and germany werent exaclty them just decendants so he did it wrong cause he wasnt. aryan=indo european = pregermanic and latin
and if on 9/11/07 a sadist hooks me up to a live support machine and pours HCL on me, NaOH, cuts me,rapes me keeps me drugged on stuff so my body doesnt move yet i feel all the pain, then invites others to do what they will. Do i get rememebered as a victem of 9/11 oh no cause that was 9/11 a couple years ago and we didnt lose a building over it or 2 infact all we lost is another citizen and well that happens every day in iraq so it doesnt matter stop being so selfish. if i surive that do i get all the stuff the holocost surivers get? what if they do it to me for 30 years in some basement and just get as creative as they can i their methods? then what do they call me? oh yeah just someone that died. no holiday will exist for it other then a peice of paper that said i died and the investagation. 9/11 happened we let the guys do it and now we go kill other people cause it happened. great wow i wish i had that dream too
btw the amish had a guy murder their school children and forgave him. end of story if you want to bring up the past and cry about it. we should go kill the man that did it even tho he was forgiven if he wasnt already dead. right! cause thats what forgiveness is about right. so maybe the real holocost people were amish? i dunno please explain what i said in your terms so i understand what happened.
and today i was at BBQ for american cross people and they just talked about their job benifits of working for disaster management like a person that runs a CVS.they were cold to all that happened i know people that are part of FEMA or they organisation they keep changing the name cause people get pissed off that them. cause they do it for all the wrong reasons and its not done well or right. cause it was made to make people feel good about the deaths of those people, all the wrong way they talk about how much fun they had and show their pictures of what the aftermath was like, like some party oh i traveled there so i say if im gona have a party let everyone enjoy it and we will travel and bring everyone we can. and you dont have to come
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
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a coyote tried to use fractel gainst me
Damn those sneaky coyotes, I wouldnt know what to do if coyote would try to use a fractal against me.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7258438 - 08/04/07 07:52 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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thats the point they dont attack people they just want to chill out, eat dead bodies,and play and have sex. tho they do love a good chase with their pack even if they dont want to admit it at times. cause camo is fun to use. and barriers they also use underground tunnels and dens yet chill on the surface when they could live without chilling on the surface. animals chill out too and work for food too.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7258548 - 08/04/07 09:19 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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if your a grammer goblin it will eat you in the end.
damn! I think I'm a grammar goblin
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when i smoked, i was a daily smoke and cleaned my bubbler with alcohol once a week. resin tar is garbage. youre a junkie if you smoke that. i treat it as fecal matter, essentially that's what it is.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7258648 - 08/04/07 10:12 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol moon glue good explain and metaphor thru life.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7258650 - 08/04/07 10:14 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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ha I thought he posted in the wrong thread
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: jmg5]
#7258741 - 08/04/07 10:47 AM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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woops totally posted in the wrong thread, sorry guys....
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: moon_glue]
#7259041 - 08/04/07 12:30 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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moon_glue said: woops totally posted in the wrong thread, sorry guys....
and this is an example of how fractals work co inciding events that chain together thru life. he was the fly and i was agaric
as for that other comment. exactly but lets say one sniper killed king charles and the first german empire. the aryans werent india any who they were indo european. travelers. What caused the fall over the roman empire?
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: microsporum]
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I am just curious, thedudenj, just how much drugs (and what drugs) have you done till now?
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7259362 - 08/04/07 02:09 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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combination of roman politics and the german people werent exactly warring with each other the Romans paid them to gaurd their boarders so the barbarians realised shit fuck them they are ASSholes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Reich to later become assholes and hilter then did it too and the true ayrans left way way before that to go to india and start the counter revolution of the future by making books and stuff and gods. tho they kinda created it.
Charlemagne his franks and the goths and some other germanic tribes.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7259583 - 08/04/07 03:36 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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... Am I missing something? Cause I have no fucking idea what this post is about at all
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: Azrah]
#7259684 - 08/04/07 04:20 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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god damn... all this philosophical intergalactica shit you guys are talkin has just convinced me to start taking shrooms.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: jrcurtis24]
#7259699 - 08/04/07 04:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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What the fuck is this thread about?
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: jrcurtis24]
#7259700 - 08/04/07 04:28 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nothing in this thread should be taken too seriously.
Where the fuck did all this holocaust/9-11 discussion come from? Can anybody say "off topic?" Does anybody here really know what the hell they're talking about? What does any of this have to do with psychedelia? (Please note that I am NOT asking for an abstract, completely meaningless diarrhea of words that purports to be an explanation that is above my and everybody else's heads). Am I the only one who sees a troll with 3500+ posts?
I'm not going to name names. But Jesus Christ, people.
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This thread has a rather psychedelic pattern to it.
-------------------- Acid doesn't give you truths; it builds machines that push the envelope of perception. Whatever revelations came to me then have dissolved like skywriting. All I really know is that those few years saddled me with a faith in the redemptive potential of the imagination which, however flat, stale and unprofitable the world seems to me now, I cannot for the life of me shake. -Erik Davis
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Ya, full circle
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Tchan909 said: Nothing in this thread should be taken too seriously.
Where the fuck did all this holocaust/9-11 discussion come from? Can anybody say "off topic?" Does anybody here really know what the hell they're talking about? What does any of this have to do with psychedelia? (Please note that I am NOT asking for an abstract, completely meaningless diarrhea of words that purports to be an explanation but is above my and everybody else's heads). Can anybody say "troll with over 3500 posts?"
I'm not going to name names. But Jesus Christ, people.
Yep, that is what this thread is about. Nothing at all..... Nothing specific. If it is about anything, its about the art of ranting incoherently as if that is somehow a good thing..
Someone should post a new topic in this thread.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: yageman]
#7259719 - 08/04/07 04:39 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on hara-kiri rock. I need scissors! 61!
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Zither, Rachel, Cardamom, Frost- But at what cost? Threshold, Skin, Fortress, Win- A life of sin. Pliers, Tension, Toy Store, Grace- the human race. Raking, 14, Basket, Screw- Now how bout you? Passion, Cardboard, Raisin, Stop- A better crop. Field, Cater, Open New- Who's mocking who? It's just a mock song.
Gas, thirsty, Rattle, Tick- A bone to pick. Fountain, Egg, Treason, Cave- Will you dance on grave? Throat, Carrot, Meeting, Choke- I got that joke. Temper, Thistle, Rodney, Wilt- The house I built. Fewer, Pink, Kyle, Ball- I've known them all. Penny, Thistle, Cell Phone, Blow- Reap what you sow. Cuz it's just a mock song... Call it what you will.
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Re: psychedelic patterns [Re: thedudenj]
#7260048 - 08/04/07 07:02 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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exactly its the patterns of peoples psyche and the nowadays psychedelic means to alot of people mind bending. mind altering and we are sitting here doing that with just words and theres a pattern that poeple dont see and each has there own, making a web so woven that its a really pretty or ugly one and its made colorful.
ill add this too i have mad kites and im a wizard.
i have made kite strings and fly those kites i knew what color they were when they took off and stuff in the atmosphere changes the colors so i occasionally pull them down from their hight to check and its gotten a bad color i clean it and release it to fly in the right level to keep it a happy color. the stuff sometimes pollutes it and makes it an unhappy color. even if its still the same color .
-------------------- "You all are just puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain..."" you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours
Edited by thedudenj (08/04/07 07:43 PM)
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