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Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams!
    #7245523 - 08/01/07 12:29 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

So my friend was doing his first "dunk" tonight... he flipped over the first jar and BAM, there was some green contam on the top (where the dry verm barrier was). He couldn't see this before he dumped it. He cut the cake in half and disposed of the bad half. He sprayed everything down with lysol afterwards but he's wondering if there's a chance it contaminated his whole work area. Any ideas?


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7245551 - 08/01/07 12:36 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

im pretty sure its ok if there are contams on top of the verm layer. as long as they arent under it. i've had that happen to me and nothing bad became of my cakes (until later due to my lack of knowledge of the benifits of proper FAE... but thats another story)

as long as the contam isnt on the cake, im pretty sure you can just dump the verm layer off and still have a perfectly good cake. you said you couldnt see it when the mycelium was colonizing the jar? which makes it seem like it didnt permeate the verm layer.


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7245572 - 08/01/07 12:41 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, he cut it in half (just to make sure) and didn't see any inside the cake. thanks for the info!


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7245589 - 08/01/07 12:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it only takes a couple green spores to fuck everything up, if you see the half cake contaminating just throw it away in your neighbors trash can quickly. or better yet go do an outdoor grow..


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: deformedreality]
    #7245598 - 08/01/07 12:52 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

DUDE! I've had the same thing happen, except instead of cake it was a .rar, and instead of contams it was CP.


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: lolwhut]
    #7245757 - 08/01/07 01:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah man those mold spores spread alot.
good luck, becareful it could fuck with your other cakes.
just try an outdoor just to be safe


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: wutang]
    #7245805 - 08/01/07 01:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

outdoors won't work for him. let's see...it's 10:30 at night and it's 100+ degrees....


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7246394 - 08/01/07 06:27 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yea, ive had cobweb mold on the dry verm and the cake is fine


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7246712 - 08/01/07 10:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If you are dead set on keeping it, at the very least fruit it by itself.


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: mushbaby]
    #7246749 - 08/01/07 10:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you think it could infect the whole FC?


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7247079 - 08/01/07 12:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, when you see the green on your cake that is the spores from the contaminant. Spores are of course the way they germinate. Maybe you got rid of all of it, maybe not. Never hurts to be careful.


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7247427 - 08/01/07 02:34 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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outdoors won't work for him. let's see...it's 10:30 at night and it's 100+ degrees....




shit i didnt know where you live and the surroundings.

okay mold spores spread everywhere once they are disturbed.
xaxphanes said to put salt over it. i dont know how the hell that helps but he says it does.
and yes, just like a virus with humans, the mold can spread to cakes.
you have to be careful because mold spores might be in your working area and FUCK up future growing.


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: wutang]
    #7247504 - 08/01/07 03:08 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

is there any way to completely rid the area of spores floating around?


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7247526 - 08/01/07 03:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

yeah spray the fuck out of the area with lysol
clean down counter tops and ANYTHING that may have come in contact with the mold, use alcohol.


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: wutang]
    #7247529 - 08/01/07 03:13 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

lysol dosent clean the air it is a surfaqce cleaner, oust is for the air


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: royer]
    #7247558 - 08/01/07 03:20 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well, luckily, when he did the "dunk" ..instead of putting them all in a pan and weighing them down, he put them in their own individual ziplock bag and put them in the fridge.. i guess he'll throw it away...


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7247562 - 08/01/07 03:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

...oh and on that note... if he threw away a colonized (or partly colonized) cake in the jar and someone dug through his trash could he get charged?


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7247646 - 08/01/07 03:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i suppose he could. if your worried about that though, you might as well just bury it in your yard. who knows. maybe itll fruit in your 100 degree weather. (i hope you dont mean celsius.)

1: the chances of some one going through your garbage arent that good. (i guess this depends on neighborhood though)

2: the chances of some one that looks through garbage knowing what a PF cake even IS are just as slim

3: the chances of some one who goes through garbage, took the time to learn about what a PF cake is, and actually caring about some one who is growing shrooms enough to call the cops is soooooo not good.

cause first of all, if he knows what a PF cake is, chances are he has had friends who grew mushrooms, grew shrooms himself, or at least looked into it. even if its oysters, a person who appreciates cultivation of mushrooms (in my opinion) wouldnt ensue much legal action against some one who was growing mushrooms.

and how much would some one digging through other peoples trash respect the police anyway? i know these are all generalizations, but for the most part i find them to be pretty accurate... :tongue:


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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: freemynd]
    #7247659 - 08/01/07 03:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

lol yeah who ever the fuck is a garbage digger hobo. i dont think anyone will give a shit. besides, edible mushrooms are grown this way.
but if you must, ( and it sounds fun) take out the cake, keep the jar, and just stomp it in your yard.

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Re: Ahhhh!!!! Hidden Contams! [Re: wutang]
    #7247673 - 08/01/07 03:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

haha, yeah. that's what he thought. just curious... when does it change from a legal substance (spores) to illegal? when the jar colonizes?


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