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IslandShroomer
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PNW ID Request
#7241280 - 07/30/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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The following Id Request is for the species in picture number two ( the one of a collection of shrooms spread out on newspaper)Photos 1 and three are some of the many interesting shrooms I took photos of today.
PS, im not expecting these to be active, im just trying to get the ropes of the id request . . . but if they are active that is cool!


 Habitat: Wood - Found growing on moss around and on a fallen rotting tree.
Gills: The gill color varies from a very light tan color to white.
Stem: goes from a light tan to a darker carmel/brown color at base, pretty fragile, 2-4 mm wide.
Cap: carmel tip to light tan/off white at edges of cap, smooth,about 1-3 cm in diameter.
Spore print color: in progress of obtaining.
Bruising: No color change was observed.
Location: Picked in northwestern oregon, about 50 yards from creek, and a quarter mile from ocean in the lower elevations of coastal mountain forest.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Species 1 could be a Lycoperdon. Species 2 is hard to see because the camera is not focusing on the mushrooms. My guess is Laccaria, but it is almost certainly wrong. I have been wrong before and I am wrong this time, because the picture is too blurry to see what they look like. Species 3 could be a Psathyrella or some other genus.
We will need to have good clear photos of both the top and underside of the caps of the mushrooms to give you an ID. Very often the spore print color is required. If your camera has macro mode (the little flower), use it.
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IslandShroomer
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here are some closeups of the cap and gills.


hopefully this helps. The spore print has only been in for about 4 hours so i dont want to disturb the process.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Inactive and inedible. I am not sure what else to call it.
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IslandShroomer
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ha thats what i thought. I wasnt even planning on going hunting today, just passed a TON of mushrooms on a heavily wooded trail that shows potential.
From what i have learned, if looking for a psilocybe species, you want a bit of a thicker stem then that, with the obvious blue bruising and purple/brown spore. I know that is not even nearly always true, but that is a good basis to start at, is it not?
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PinheadX
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sounds about right. Sporeprints are the definitive factor with any ID, I think. Just make sure you keep separate species separated when collecting them.
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CureCat
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Quote:
IslandShroomer said:
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Alan Rockefeller said: Species 1 could be a Lycoperdon.
Indeed. It is one of two species: Lycoperdon perlatum or L. pyriforme.
This can easily be sorted by whether the mushrooms have tiny spines or not. L. perlatum will have evident raised spines, where as L. pyriforme will be mostly smooth.
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CureCat
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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: CureCat]
#7242189 - 07/31/07 01:43 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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For the second species, I am guessing the spore print will be white.
I'm thinking along the lines of Gymnopus, Collybia, or perhaps one of the lignicolous Strobilurus.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: CureCat]
#7242330 - 07/31/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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> I'm thinking along the lines of Gymnopus, Collybia, or perhaps one of the lignicolous Strobilurus.
Those genuses don't have decurrent gills.
It could be a Clitocybe, they sometimes have decurrent gills, dark stalks, and can grow in clusters.
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CureCat
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Alan Rockefeller said: Those genuses don't have decurrent gills.
I wouldn't call the gills of the mushrooms pictured above decurrent. Attached? Yes. But going down the stipe? Eh, subdecurrent at best, perhaps adnexed.
Collybia, Gymnopus, and Strobilurus all have attached gills (some species of Gymnopus may display free gills, though it is not a consistent trait), ranging from subdecurrent to adnexed.
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IslandShroomer
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Re: PNW ID Request [Re: CureCat]
#7243112 - 07/31/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah, spore print came out, transferred it off the tinfoil on to black paper and it is as white as can be.
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