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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: yageman]
    #7236821 - 07/29/07 03:36 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Id assume it was a sort of refined extract. White in color, very illegal in the states.
700 mgs was enough for me. Im sure of that.





was this taken orally?


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: waixingren]
    #7236882 - 07/29/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

ya due


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: yageman]
    #7237146 - 07/29/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yageman you have been posting exactly the kinds of things i wanted to read. it also makes sense that it reminds you of salvia in a way considering they both work on the opioid receptors.
good stuff. i would love to try it some day. i would want to go to africa to do it, though.


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7237177 - 07/29/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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SunshineDaydream said:
"it also makes sense that it reminds you of salvia in a way considering they both work on the opioid receptors".





Well shit man, thats news to me.
I knew that about salvia, but not iboga.
Now what Ive wrote here is even interesting to me.....
weird.

Makes perfect sense.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: yageman]
    #7237189 - 07/29/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

:smile: yes i've always made certain connections to drugs by their mechanism of action.  that's why i think there is a similarity in the effects of serotogenics.  they aren't entirely similar but they have some common effects.


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7237193 - 07/29/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

oh and DXM works on opiod receptors, too! i recall you making a comparison to DXM, too...


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7237249 - 07/29/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Thats some weird shit right there brother.

The only drugs I know much about chemically and their actions on the the human brain is MJ, lsd, lsa, dmt's, salvia, mushrooms, and ayahuasca.

Thanks for the info.

Again, I find it to be sort of weird that I mentioned those two drugs as a sort of comparison.
Funkyness!


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: yageman]
    #7237277 - 07/29/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, isn't DXM, like, one atom away from being synthetic morphine or something great like that?


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7237319 - 07/29/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Tchan909 said:
Yeah, isn't DXM, like, one atom away from being synthetic morphine or something great like that?



I know little about the chemical but much about the dxm experience.

It cant be that close to morphine though.
Close enough to mention, maybe. I dont know.

This just makes me want to read more about these opioid receptors.
I do love opium....lol I might as well read about it in the spirit of learning of iboga's healing properties.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: yageman]
    #7237332 - 07/29/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i would definitely look into it...perhaps an opiate nod, when it is obtained, has some similarities to dxm, etc. i know the half-awake/dreaming state that is the opiate nod tends to cause dreams similar to some dxm induced states...if that makes sense....i can see a similarity in my experiences (i haven't used dxm in about 3 years, now, but i for one appreciate what it did for me...it did change me...but not in a bad way at all)


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7237367 - 07/29/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I see what you mean.

Did I mention that ibogaine feels like being strapped into a low volt electric chair at times.

I can safely say it is the weirdest drug I have ever taken.
Salvia comes in second in the weird/most different category(for me).
If I start using psychedelics again, id like to learn how to understand its gifts more clearly.
Ibogaine certainly is not elusive about its personality.


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You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: yageman]
    #7237396 - 07/29/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i just don't know where to procure some. do any online vendors sell iboga seeds? the seeds do not contain any alkaloids according to "plants of the gods" so i don't see why they wouldn't be able to sell them.


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7237400 - 07/29/07 06:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Well, I figured out the DXM question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levorphanol

It's not related to morphine itself, but to another opiate with high-power analgesic properties. Interesting indeed.


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7237411 - 07/29/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hey tchan i've also read of people using DXM to combat opiate withdrawl. makes sense!


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7237829 - 07/29/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Did you check that link I PMed you sun?


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7238412 - 07/29/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Never heard of it? What is it?


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7238811 - 07/30/07 12:48 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Did you check that link I PMed you sun?




damn i'll check it right now!  i just smoked some keef off some high quality KB and i'm fuckin upside down. 
obviously.  :suicide: :bigblunt:


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: SunshineDaydream]
    #7239878 - 07/30/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Another drug that is closely related to the opiate molecule is Imodium or it's drug name loperamide.  I've heard that it is one teeny, tiny molecule off from one of the most powerful opiates known to man which is Fentanyl or China White.  Fentanyl is the LSD of opiates as it's measured in micrograms.  When there are many junkies reported in the news of overdosing, it's usually Fentanyl that is the culprit.  Many times it is mixed with heroin (or just cut by itself) and when it is shot up many times the shooter overdoses before he completely plunges. 

That's why loperamide or Imodium is sold for diarehea relief as opiates are known to cause constipation. It is also used sometimes in helping with the withdrawal symptoms of quitting heroin although I've never tried it. 

Sorry this is a little off topic.  Just thought I'd share since the thread was steering towards opiate receptors. :smile:


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Re: ibogaine anyone? [Re: Mikeadelic]
    #7240030 - 07/30/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hey i enjoy any information i can get, mikeadelic.  :laugh:


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