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Killer Sausage
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7222607 - 07/25/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teotzlcoatl said: ok i see why people find me annoying...GET 'EM CPTN!
1) both work, the skin is better 2) Eating it makes you in more of a dream/tripping state, smoking less so.... 3) i would say smoking amanitas is not tripping but placing yourself in a dream in which you are awake.. smoke it with cannabis...
Thank you very much, man!! I really appreciate your feedback, very helpful, and hopefully this is a good way to up my psychedelic experience without goin too far. Now I just wanna know one more thing.. which is overall the more powerful experience (in terms of psychedelic quality; btw, dreams are psychedelic), smokin chronic, or smokin amanitas?
EDIT: Another question, sorry to be a bother to anyone. Does smokin (the act of burnin) remove any of the ibotenic acid or whatever it's called? I read that i. acid is a neurotoxin that can cause brain lesions in high doses, and I was wonderin if smokin removes any of it, or converts it to the relatively harmless musci-somethin.
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Edited by Killer Sausage (07/25/07 03:08 PM)
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hilikus989
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ive always used the skin and the yellow flesh just under the cap and disregard the rest. i enjoy the amanitas. for me it tends to "clear up" the high and do away with drymouth. very cool, mellow.
i can see how it is similar to opium just not as intense of a chill feeling as opium, def similar though, nice observation.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: hilikus989]
#7223337 - 07/25/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Another question, sorry to be a bother to anyone. Does smokin (the act of burnin) remove any of the ibotenic acid or whatever it's called? I read that i. acid is a neurotoxin that can cause brain lesions in high doses, and I was wonderin if smokin removes any of it, or converts it to the relatively harmless musci-somethin.
yes, heating turns the bad chemicals into psychedelic ones, so smoking(heating) would certainly do so...
I would say amanitas are more psychedelic when mixed with cannabis THAN cannabis, but they have little effect alone unless eaten and prepared properly....
http://www.shroomery.org/8671/Preparation-of-Amanita-muscaria
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thetonebone72
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7223390 - 07/25/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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This is the first I've heard of smoking a mushroom actually having an effect. I thought that was dismissed for psilocybin mushrooms anyway? That would be nice if there was an alternative to eating them and a way to help conserve my precious cannabis! I assume the way to prepare for smoking is to let dry and break/grind it up to cannabis sized portions? or do you just plop some wet amanita on top of your cannabis and light it up? Just curious. I might have to try that this fall when they start popping up all over the PNW
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Teotzlcoatl
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you can't smoke psilocybin...dry the amanita and smoke quarter-sized peices of the skin
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Killer Sausage
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7224355 - 07/25/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teotzlcoatl: Again, thanks for your response man.
-------------------- CHECKLIST: *cannabis, psilocybe, fly agaric, salvia, LSD, mescaline, AMT, LSA, 5meo-DMT, DMT. (* = done it) Sebastian23 on extractin THC from urine: "I doubt it, and in any way that could be worth extracting trace chemicals from hella urine samples. Thats like using recycled human shit to feed humans. It's just a bad idea." LOL!!!
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pokermush
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Wow that was cool!
Added 0.2 grams of AM resin to my 0.1 gram of weed last night. The resin didn't burn as readily, looks like I still have half in the bowl.
Awesome experience, very different from weed alone. More intense, no cotton mouth, more clear-headed, less mind chatter, more euphoric. Also seemed like I had less memory disruption than normal.
Thanks for turning me on to this!
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: pokermush]
#7228427 - 07/26/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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would saying it felt like you were in a dream be accurate???
I want somebody to combind this with silene c.
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David.Hulse
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I once orded some amanitas.. boiled them into a tea and drank them with a friend of mine.. nothing happened until a little while after we smoked a couple bowls at which point I started to feel very much like I was in a dream and began laughing histerically for no apparent reason... a friend of mine who wasn't tripping became very excited and was in some sort of argument with another nontripping friend and near the end of their argument, I think the deciding factor in the winner of it, he said "What's 2 plus 2 JADE?!?!" I heard it, knowing it was a major bash to her intelligence and began laughing even harder than I had been before.. and when she didn't seem to get the joke it made me laugh even harder.. when I asked my other tripping friend about this he says the whole argument was a figment of my imagination... wierd.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: David.Hulse]
#7228922 - 07/27/07 12:55 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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cool
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pokermush
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Re: AMANITAS SMOKIN QUESTIONS. [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7229804 - 07/27/07 09:17 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes it had a dreamy quality to it too, but without feeling like I was in a daze.
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Re: Anyone taken a reasonable dose of Amanitas (Musc.)? [Re: Acaterpillar]
#7229949 - 07/27/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rabidbaboon said: I've always heard about removing the skin and smoking the meat because the skin contains toxins?
i have also heard this, and i'm interested in trying amanitas, so can somebody clear this up?
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Re: Anyone taken a reasonable dose of Amanitas (Musc.)? [Re: lysergicide]
#7230265 - 07/27/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Me too. I have not bothered with Amanita before even though it is the easiest to find and identify shroom that grows in my area. No cubes here I don't think I would like ingested Amanita at all.
I've read a few post here about smoking it though and that sounds interesting to me. I ordered an ounce along with some other stuff a few minutes ago. Going to sample smoking a it with some weed.
I wonder how it is on Salvia as well. A weed/Amanita buzz before a good Salvia hit might prove interesting. I shall find out before too long.
Anyone ever try that?
Amanitas always interested me even though I don't think I would care for the ingested high they give. I always thought it was funny how it seems to be the most commonly depicted mushroom in cartoons, fairy tales and children's books. Some sort of message perhaps?
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Re: Anyone taken a reasonable dose of Amanitas (Musc.)? [Re: Salvinorin]
#7230374 - 07/27/07 12:13 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Anyone taken a reasonable dose of Amanitas (Musc.)? [Re: lysergicide]
#7230528 - 07/27/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I smoked both, skin is better, both work...
-------------------- "We are the one's we have been waiting for"-Hopi proverb
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