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roquet
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non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms
#7212971 - 07/23/07 05:39 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apart from Amanita Muscaria and Pantheria are there any other non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms?
I thought Laughing Jim (gymnopilus spectabilis) was. I read somewhere it has an effect a bit like alcohol. But searching on here it seems to just contain psilocybin.
Edited by roquet (07/23/07 05:40 AM)
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: trigger]
#7213385 - 07/23/07 10:00 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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trigger said: all "actives" contain psilocybin and psilocin, except the amanita muscaria contains, Muscimol.
Not quite true. There was a thread recently in which someone found (or compiled) an extensive list of non psilocybian mushrooms that are touted to be psychoactive. Dig it up, and you'll find lots of information on the subject.
Apparently there are hallucinogenic puffballs...
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in the national audubon society field guide book, says a shroom by the name of "lawn mowers mushroom" psathyrella foenisecii. quote "a mediocre edible and may be a mild hallucinogen in large quantitys" it doesnt say anything about bruseing blue.
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: trigger]
#7213564 - 07/23/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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trigger said: all "actives" contain psilocybin and psilocin, except the amanita muscaria contains, Muscimol.
You need to Pick up/read Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World: A Guide to Identification by PAUL STAMETS.
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: wutang]
#7214555 - 07/23/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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wutang said: in the national audubon society field guide book, says a shroom by the name of "lawn mowers mushroom" psathyrella foenisecii. quote "a mediocre edible and may be a mild hallucinogen in large quantitys" it doesnt say anything about bruseing blue.
I believe these are psilocin/psilocybin mushrooms... just in extremely low quantities so you need tons of shrooms, and also arguably it depends what region you pick them in if they will be active or not.
But about the bruiseing blue... that is really not a good way to see if a shroom has psilocin or not. I'm sure there are plenty of shrooms that bruise blue that are not actives.
Its not like when you bruise a mushroom the psilocin (which isn't blue) becomes visible all of a sudden.
Let's say each shroom has like 5mg psilocin (probably a fair estimate for a average size shroom).... you think all that blue material is 5mg worth of molecules? nope
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ReoSpeedwagon153 said: There was a thread recently in which someone found (or compiled) an extensive list of non psilocybian mushrooms that are touted to be psychoactive.
I think this was that thread. Half of them are only listed as having tryptophan and trypamine, which are common in many lifeforms anyway, and not really comparable in effect to psilocybin.
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: trigger]
#7215672 - 07/23/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: bluedolphin]
#7217142 - 07/24/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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bluedolphin said:
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wutang said: in the national audubon society field guide book, says a shroom by the name of "lawn mowers mushroom" psathyrella foenisecii. quote "a mediocre edible and may be a mild hallucinogen in large quantitys" it doesnt say anything about bruseing blue.
I believe these are psilocin/psilocybin mushrooms... just in extremely low quantities so you need tons of shrooms, and also arguably it depends what region you pick them in if they will be active or not.
But about the bruiseing blue... that is really not a good way to see if a shroom has psilocin or not. I'm sure there are plenty of shrooms that bruise blue that are not actives.
Its not like when you bruise a mushroom the psilocin (which isn't blue) becomes visible all of a sudden.
Let's say each shroom has like 5mg psilocin (probably a fair estimate for a average size shroom).... you think all that blue material is 5mg worth of molecules? nope
well any noob can tell you thats not a way, theres shitloads of mushrooms that bruise blue. psilocin does turn blue, if you find a shroom and you are positive its a psilocybe, then blue bruising can help you narrow down the strains, useing process of eliminaton. use common sense, dont go eating what the hell you dont know.
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: wutang]
#7217159 - 07/24/07 08:37 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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wutang said: in the national audubon society field guide book, says a shroom by the name of "lawn mowers mushroom" psathyrella foenisecii. quote "a mediocre edible and may be a mild hallucinogen in large quantitys" it doesnt say anything about bruseing blue.
Be very weary of this species as little is known about the truth in that statement. These grow all over my yard but I don't just go out and eat them because it's rumored that depending on your region they may be either poisonous, nuetral, or mildly hallucinogenic. I don't want to take my chances...
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: Gr33nTree73]
#7217401 - 07/24/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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uhh if you read my post you would have noticed ITS FROM A GUIDE BOOK and i quoted it. you're probably not that experienced with identifying. do some research. you dont take chances you gotta know what the hell you're doing. just cause you claim they are in your back yard isnt enough to show they are the same exact type, print, and everything.
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: wutang]
#7217552 - 07/24/07 11:11 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know about the bruising blue thing. Stamets spoke at a psychoactivity conference in amsterdam (on youtube I think), and he had this to say about identifying actives: If they bruise blue AND have purple-brown spore prints, you are almost certainly in the clear.
Of course he recommends further identification, but those were the two parameters he made it seem that noobs could identify actives by. For what it's worth, that's what I recall stamets saying.
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Re: non-psilocybin "active" mushrooms [Re: trigger]
#7222554 - 07/25/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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