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Coir Substrate/Casing
    #7215082 - 07/23/07 06:45 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I mixed two half pint colonized jars with some coir and verm for the substrate layer. The ratio is probably 3:2:1 coir:verm:crumbled jars. It is about 2" thick. I then used a moist, thin layer of verm, enough to barely cover the top for a casing layer. I now have it incubating. Does this sound about right for spawning this to the coir?

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Re: Coir Substrate/Casing [Re: b0b]
    #7215094 - 07/23/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Pretty much other than i would have skipped the coir with the sub and just used a coir/coffee mix....Also you might want a 50/50+ casing layer since this holds a better micro-climate for pin formation.


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Re: Coir Substrate/Casing [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7215340 - 07/23/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I would have just spawed to coir/coffee, not coir/verm, and i would have used 50/50 for the casing. Basically what xax is saying.

You should be fine here though. Just some improvements for next time.


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Re: Coir Substrate/Casing [Re: LVL12]
    #7217728 - 07/24/07 11:56 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks. One of the jars I used for the substrate had pins on it already. RR said it would be fine to crumple it up and case it still, so I did. This morning I have a pretty fan pin, with a head the size of a penny, and a lot of little tiny ones poking out. Texas seems to want to fruit in low light, which is why I got it.

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Re: Coir Substrate/Casing [Re: b0b]
    #7218262 - 07/24/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

coir and coffee grounds both tend to retain their water fairly well so, generally there's no real need to add vermiculite to the mix, however if you do, something on the order of 10% by volume should be fine.

Besides, I'm not really keen on chomping down on it _even though I know it's safe_ :rolleyes:

As for what you've done, specifically, it's technically considered "fruiting a bulk substrate uncased"  A casing layer is a rich, non-nutritious moisture blanket usually made out of a peat-moss/verm mixture or one of the commonly found Jiffy Mix / Miracle Grow-Moisture Control commercial products.

When you fruit a substrate uncased you generally have to follow the same rules as a PF Cake.  The verm layer is roughly the same as your dunk-n-roll procedure and you have to keep the RH of the fruiting chamber between 92-99% to get good results.

Casing layers, acting as that humidity blanket I mentioned before, allow you more leeway and lower the required RH to the 80%'s which is a lot easier to maintain in larger setups.


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Re: Coir Substrate/Casing [Re: mycocurious]
    #7221069 - 07/25/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I cased it with straight moist verm, about 1/4" thick.

I put this mixture in a tupperware container, cut out about 75% of the lid, and covered the hole in Tyvek, to allow it to breathe. It seems to be retaining its moisture well. I misted it yesterday, even though it seems moist. I am using a black Rubbermaid type toolbox as my incubation chamber, and am also going to use it as my FC, since I need it to be as stealthy as possible. I am going to start exposing it to light (I picked Texas for the low light levels needed) and line the bottom of the toolbox in foil and put perlite and water down to get the moisture levels up. After this, I will remove the tupperware lid.

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