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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: yageman]
    #6066092 - 09/15/06 08:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

id like to be a one pump chump and get my salvia, HBWR seeds and viridis from iamshaman.com but im only going to be able to get the first two.

what is a bontanical shop just as good as iamshaman? ive gotten shamanspalace before and wasnt too impressed.


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066097 - 09/15/06 08:14 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Check your PMs.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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Edited by yageman (09/15/06 08:15 PM)


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066108 - 09/15/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Psychotria Viridis AKA Chacruna is offered by bouncing bear for 15 bucks for 56 grams. seems like a pretty cheap deal.

so only about 9 grams is needed for a standard brew for one person?

has anyone had the salvia from bouncing bear?


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066113 - 09/15/06 08:18 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

never mind bouncing bear doesnt offer standardized salvia extract... only non standard.

i guess ill get the HBWR seeds and salvia from iamshaman and the viridis from bouncing bear.

sucks i gotta pay shipping and handling twice.


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066204 - 09/15/06 08:46 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

A standard brew is more than most people are ready for.

Traditionally you will want 6 grams of rue or its equivalent in caapi. Then you will add about 10-15 grams of viridis.

For a life changing experience that is just enough, for some people, it would scare them pretty thoroughly for quite a bit of the trip. Thats not to say they wouldnt learn something aswell........


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: yageman]
    #6066209 - 09/15/06 08:48 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

mmmm sounds like its right up my alley!

ive had these rue seeds for like 6 months at least... are they still good>?


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066290 - 09/15/06 09:06 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

Ya, they are fine. If they have been air tight there is no real significant loss in potency.

There are so many ways to brew your ayahuasca(yes I consider rue and viridis to be ayahuasca). Find the right method and you wont be let down. The dmt plant can fluctuate greatly. But DONT use more than 5-6 grams of rue your first time. 6 grams of rue can be very hallucinogenic by its self.

You really have to know your plants before you know exactly how to dose. Dose just happens to vary so greatly between different people.

You will eventually find what you want from these plants per dose.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


Edited by yageman (09/15/06 09:09 PM)


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: yageman]
    #6066303 - 09/15/06 09:09 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for all the help man!


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"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066308 - 09/15/06 09:12 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

I just want more people to figure out how to use these plants for themselves. That and to not be scared of them or to feel a need to rely on a "shaman".

I do believe its the greatest hallucinogen known to man.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.


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    #6066593 - 09/15/06 10:55 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: uber_aj]
    #6066617 - 09/15/06 11:05 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

dmt is AWESOME book!


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"When I'm on LSD and hearing something that's pure rhythm, it takes me to another world and into anther brain state where I've stopped thinking and started knowing" - Kevin Herbert

"Psychedelics let you see the world through a child's eye."

"Experience the liquid realm..."

"The evolution of mankind is in the alteration of consciousness" - Dr. Albert Hofmann


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #6066630 - 09/15/06 11:11 PM (17 years, 4 months ago)

hmm, if you didn't know the difference between n-n-dmt and 5-meo-dmt (which are very very different both in effects and chemical makeup), i don't know if you're ready to do ayahuasca. do some reading man. that should b common knowledge.. the "DMT" everyone refers to, that is so mindshattering, and the DMT that Strassman's book is about, is n-n...


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Re: which dmt should i try for my first experience with it? hopefully in ayauscha [Re: agoutihead]
    #7214630 - 07/23/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

ok i have a few questions. and comments. first. it says rue isnt for human consumption. can u eat it safely. also can u take the mimosa or viridis without it and/or another maoi. or do u neeeed an maoi to make it work. last i want a mild dosage to trip but not insainly. of rue/mimosa. how many grams of each should i take. (using mimosa bc i like opiate effects). and oh yea my comment HBWS i ate them and got madd sick. and a question how can i not get sick its impossible to get the coating with the cyanide off it.


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