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Alan Rockefeller
Mycologist


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Re: ID Request - Small bluing mushrooms (Gymnopilus luteofolius) [Re: cactu]
#7212752 - 07/23/07 01:34 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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> A lack of a bitter taste is a good trait as all of my current Gyms are intensely bitter. Willing to trade something for a print?
I was able to collect 14 nice clean near-sterile prints on microscope slides. I was amazed how many spores these mushrooms produced.
> Eating unidentified mushrooms, are we?
I have always advocated tasting unidentified mushrooms, it's the swallowing part that can be problematic. You can learn a lot about the chemicals present in the mushrooms by observing the taste and smell.
> What kind of and how deep were the wood chips in the flower pot? > What was the soil mix below the chips or what else was in the flower pot?
I first saw these mushrooms fruit last april, but they were TINY and I couldn't ID them. They were turning all sorts of blue/green, so I added a bunch of alder wood chips to the top few inches of soil, just for good measure.
Apparently it was a good idea.
This plant was given to me by a friend 1.5 years ago; it lost all its folliage in a freeze this winter and since it had no leaves the pot became very heavy and waterlogged. It was in this condition when the mushrooms first appeared.
It is about 85 degrees F during the day, aparently this strain likes warm weather.
> (in G.luteofolius the flesh is red,purple,lavender then yellow,and the young gills yellow.)
I did see all those colors. I have never seen so many different colors in one mushroom. Some of the flesh was purple, with an indigo/lavender patch.
> The lack of a bitter flavor could indicate that your specimens are a different species, or it could be that you lack the ability to taste that particular bitter flavor. A high percentage of people are unable to taste some bitter flavors.
I usually ID gyms by their bitter taste.
> You might try asking somebody else to taste a tiny piece to see if they can detect bitterness. It would be a good idea if the person wasn't genetically related to you, as the ability to taste things like that is inherited, so your relatives might not be able to taste it either.
I gave a tiny bit to my house mate, and he said it was extremely bitter, and that his whole mouth tastes bitter now. I tried some at the same time and it was extremely mild for me, a little mushroomy with some interesting undertones, but not at all bitter.
> why don“t you leave some specimens to grow old youcan see more changes trow age ,when i have try gymnopilus they were not bitter really nice color in all his body.
Here are some more pictures from today:






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canid
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Re: ID Request - Small bluing mushrooms (Gymnopilus luteofolius) [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7213062 - 07/23/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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those are beautiful alan. also; two teaching spirits for the care of one
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Attn PWN hunters: If you should come across a bluing Psilocybe matching P. pellicolusa please smell it. If you detect a scent reminiscent of Anethole (anise) please preserve a specimen or two for study and please PM me.
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Subbedhunter420
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Re: ID Request - Small bluing mushrooms (Gymnopilus luteofolius) [Re: canid]
#7213764 - 07/23/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damn. I love gyms. Theyre the coolest. So many sub species.
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coon
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Re: ID Request - Small bluing mushrooms (Gymnopilus luteofolius) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#7214058 - 07/23/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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anybody have info on Gymnopilus purpuratus?I think it might be a possibility.cant find Gymnopilus purpuratus in the Hesler monograph.
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SCleROTiUM_LICK
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Re: ID Request - Small bluing mushrooms (Gymnopilus luteofolius) [Re: coon]
#7214230 - 07/23/07 03:07 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Eating unidentified mushrooms, are we?
I have always advocated tasting unidentified mushrooms, it's the swallowing part that can be problematic. You can learn a lot about the chemicals present in the mushrooms by observing the taste and smell.
I really didn't mean to imply any hypocrisy on your part. I just know that many advanced mycologists would advise against eating Unidentified Mushrooms. And I knew that you weren't eating them so much as tasting, but perhaps to some that distinction is too much of a slobbery slope? I would have thought most people intelligent enough to log onto the internet wouldn't go around eating mushrooms they weren't sure of, but I have read some seriously mind boggling things on this website. SO, I guess I figured it warranted just a little more comment. 
Anyway, idiots are always finding new and entertaining ways to off themselves, so I like to discourage as many of them as possible from repeating the ways that we've already seen and enjoyed.
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