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Re: Family and Friends [Re: shakercee]
#7209807 - 07/22/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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"There are NO evil people..."
I think you might be over looking those who willinly CHOOSE the other side of the spectrum. And those who unwillingly gravitate towards that vibration because it feeds their ego structure and supports their personality.
"...she went to church every sunday and pretended to pray and be a good christian, but when she got home... it was a whole different story."
Hmmmmm...
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Re: Family and Friends [Re: shakercee]
#7210032 - 07/22/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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How does that mean that an abusive parent is "smarter" than the child they abuse? Your statements regarding the relative intelligence of the parties involved make NO sense.
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MushroomTrip
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casseopeia00 said: if you don't want me to say anything then why are you posting in a public forum?
I have no idea what's the purpose of this question.
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casseopeia00 said: I've met an evil person; my mom. you might be thinking that its harsh to call my own mother evil, but she is. she does terrible things, feels no remorse, and all of her children (4) feel the same way as i do. she's definitely evil. i've had dreams of her killing me and dreams where she turns into an evil sorceress and throws fire at me and kills me. i hate her and i'm really hoping she dies very soon. it would be doing the whole family a huge favor.
but the original poster is still right, though. without my mom in my life... um... well... i'm sure something positive came from me being born to that awful woman.
you don't mean that.
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To which "that" are you referring?
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choongaloonga
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Mom's a mom,maybe it just seems Evil sometimes.(maybe just on saturdays or fridays.)But all she wants is all the best,I'm sure.
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MushroomTrip
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Well regardless her mom's intentions, wishing her death is not exactly a place to be because it only creates anger and confusion and it's also the root of having bad intentions, lots of them.
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Re: Family and Friends [Re: Syle]
#7210691 - 07/22/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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wow, this thread spun out of control. but you are all proving my point, look at you, interacting, and choosing to be here, and each of you is experiencing it and learning from it. the key point, is that you are "choosing" to be here and to be arguing.
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Re: Family and Friends [Re: Syle]
#7210970 - 07/22/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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you people are amazing... really. mushroomtrip; i'm sorry but you're probably the most insulting and insensitive person i've ever encountered. and as far as shakercee who said, "don't get involved in abusive relationships anymore"; do you think i chose that type of relationship with my mother? wow.
i don't expect any of you to understand that type of relationship and what goes on if you've never been in one, but think about what you're saying before you start preaching to someone who had it bad and couldn't do anything about it. of course i couldn't do anything about it when i was 13, but as soon as i turned 18 i was out of there b/c i was an adult and she couldn't do anything about it anymore. i lived with a friend for a couple years, got a job, got a crappy car that drove, and was on my feet for a while, but when my friend moved, i had no one and was homeless for about a year. i met a guy, slept on his friend's couch for awhile and then moved to FL with him. now i'm "happy as a clam", i have a great job working for a non-profit organization teaching classes to realtors, i just bought a new car, and i'll be married soon. but all that doesn't mean i'm not still angry at my mom for what she did. i think i'm entitled to my anger. when i'm ready, i'll forgive her. but i had to struggle because of her and work my ass off for everything that i have. she's a real piece of shit and i really hate her; completely. i don't wish harm on her, mushroomtrip, but i do wish she'd go away and never come back. i have the right to feel that way after what she did.
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First of all read my posts addressed to you again, this time more carefully, and then tell me where exactly did I tell you what to do? I specifically told you that I don't want you to do or say anything and that I just stated my opinion in the matter you presented. Wishing your mom's death (as well as anybody else's) is ignorant and doesn't make you any better than the person that abused you. This is a debate forum and I'd advice you to know what to expect before you speak, otherwise you end up confused just the way you do now.
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i think you're the one who is confused. I never said you told me what to do. not sure where that came from.
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casseopeia00 said: i think you're the one who is confused. I never said you told me what to do. not sure where that came from.
It came from here:
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casseopeia00 said: i don't expect any of you to understand that type of relationship and what goes on if you've never been in one, but think about what you're saying before you start preaching to someone who had it bad and couldn't do anything about it.
Recognize the words?
Now if you excuse me
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Re: Family and Friends *DELETED* [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7211244 - 07/22/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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casseopeia00
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i'm still not reading where i said that you told me what to do. are you referring to the "preaching" part? i don't think that's quite the same.
"now if you excuse me "
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Re: Family and Friends [Re: prankster]
#7211334 - 07/22/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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You're missing my point. I was trying to explain her that wishing her mom's death is similar to what her mom did to her. Or that this mind set might lead her there. Her mother might be acting the way she did/does because of her own personal drama she had in her life, hateful thinking which increased in time and determined her to be the person she is right now. If she continues to hate her mother, her problem might aggravate too and become that "evil" person in the future. This not only proves my point that those who are labeled as being evil are not really so, because their bad intentions have their roots in frustration and fear (therefore human, explainable feelings), but it also proves that if one is not cautious about one's thoughts and feelings, one might become what one once resented.
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Re: Family and Friends *DELETED* [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7211355 - 07/22/07 07:47 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Family and Friends [Re: prankster]
#7211388 - 07/22/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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prankster said: maybe you're missing mine? if you feel hatred, you feel hatred. accept it. she says she is living a happy life now. she also says she might become ready for her feelings to change. but she feels what she feels and that needs to be acknowledged.
Yeah, that's the first step. Once one understands the nature of one's condition, one feeling hatred, one realizes the futility of inflicting suffering upon oneself in such a manner. If one is still feeling hatred over events that have already transpired, then one is still justifying one's infliction of suffering upon oneself, by poisoning one's experience of reality by experiencing that. Acknowledgement might be the first step, but acceptance needs to wash over one, as reality is what it is. Then one needs to consciously choose to transcend.
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choongaloonga said: Mom's a mom,maybe it just seems Evil sometimes.(maybe just on saturdays or fridays.)But all she wants is all the best,I'm sure.
What makes you sure? Mothers sometimes kill their children. Does Mom still want only the best here?
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Re: Family and Friends [Re: Icelander]
#7211400 - 07/22/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icelander said: What makes you sure? Mothers sometimes kill their children. Does Mom still want only the best here?
There's a difference between wanting the best and knowing the best.
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casseopeia00 said: you people are amazing... really. mushroomtrip; i'm sorry but you're probably the most insulting and insensitive person i've ever encountered. and as far as shakercee who said, "don't get involved in abusive relationships anymore"; do you think i chose that type of relationship with my mother? wow.
i don't expect any of you to understand that type of relationship and what goes on if you've never been in one, but think about what you're saying before you start preaching to someone who had it bad and couldn't do anything about it. of course i couldn't do anything about it when i was 13, but as soon as i turned 18 i was out of there b/c i was an adult and she couldn't do anything about it anymore. i lived with a friend for a couple years, got a job, got a crappy car that drove, and was on my feet for a while, but when my friend moved, i had no one and was homeless for about a year. i met a guy, slept on his friend's couch for awhile and then moved to FL with him. now i'm "happy as a clam", i have a great job working for a non-profit organization teaching classes to realtors, i just bought a new car, and i'll be married soon. but all that doesn't mean i'm not still angry at my mom for what she did. i think i'm entitled to my anger. when i'm ready, i'll forgive her. but i had to struggle because of her and work my ass off for everything that i have. she's a real piece of shit and i really hate her; completely. i don't wish harm on her, mushroomtrip, but i do wish she'd go away and never come back. i have the right to feel that way after what she did.
I feel the same way to some degree about my relationship with my parents and came to the same conclusions as you have in this post.
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