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OfflineXxWaltarxX
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24 hours of cold shock! Now what?
    #7203683 - 07/20/07 06:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I put my cakes, inside there 1/2 pint jars in the fridge, for 24 hours. Now I birth them or what?


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: XxWaltarxX]
    #7203686 - 07/20/07 06:48 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

your seriously not asking the next step after a dunk are you... :crankey:


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: shr00m3r]
    #7203706 - 07/20/07 06:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

why did you cold shock them?


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7203776 - 07/20/07 07:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
why did you cold shock them?



They will not pin. I'm doing the B+ strain.


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: XxWaltarxX]
    #7204055 - 07/20/07 08:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So, wasnt your goal to shock them into pinning? Hence your next step would be to pin?

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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: djcube]
    #7204166 - 07/20/07 08:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

ther'e lots of teks, you would have been better of soaking them in sterile water and then rolling them in vermiculite, cold shocking is only marginally effective for PC's


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: shroom1957]
    #7204361 - 07/20/07 09:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

cubes don't benefit from cold shocking the only mushrooms that do are species like shiitake or other cold climate species.


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7204407 - 07/20/07 09:47 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Cubensis is TROPICAL.... they NEVER need a cold shock, I have NEVER cold shocked and always received fruits, unless the substrate is contaminated.


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: Grogan]
    #7204428 - 07/20/07 09:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Putting the cakes in the refrigerator overnight isn't really cold shocking though. Is it? I thought that it was only done in order to ward off bacteria during the dunking. Anyway, you can freeze brf cakes and still expect a few flushes, but I would never advise anyone to do so.

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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: figurine]
    #7204481 - 07/20/07 10:12 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Putting the cakes in the refrigerator overnight isn't really cold shocking though. Is it? I thought that it was only done in order to ward off bacteria during the dunking. Anyway, you can freeze brf cakes and still expect a few flushes, but I would never advise anyone to do so.




I'm not sure about the freezing part, but :thumbup: to the rest.


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: CaptTrip]
    #7204681 - 07/20/07 10:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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CaptTrip said:
I'm not sure about the freezing part, but :thumbup: to the rest.




What I wrote seems ambiguous after rereading it. I mistakenly froze some brf cakes, partially, once, and everything came out alright. I can only wonder how a brf cake encapsulated in a block of ice would work out.


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: XxWaltarxX]
    #7204809 - 07/20/07 11:21 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You're saying you didn't dunk them?

If you didn't, do.


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Re: 24 hours of cold shock! Now what? [Re: figurine]
    #7205173 - 07/21/07 01:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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figurine said:
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CaptTrip said:
I'm not sure about the freezing part, but :thumbup: to the rest.




What I wrote seems ambiguous after rereading it. I mistakenly froze some brf cakes, partially, once, and everything came out alright. I can only wonder how a brf cake encapsulated in a block of ice would work out.




Probably depends on how well-hydrated it is to begin with.

The more hydrated it is before the freeze, the less likely it would be to survive it. When water freezes inside a cell, it crystallizes, and increases in volume as a result (which is why ice floats). When this happens, many cell membranes will rupture. This is why you don't freeze lettuce, or fresh mushrooms--they lose their texture afterward because the cells lose their structure.

Naturally, when cells lose their structure completely, they don't tend to survive rejuvenation. The only way you could successfully freeze live mycelium and then rejuvenate it would be to use liquid nitrogen, or a similar quick-freeze process. (This is why, though theoretically possible, cryogenics with humans and other organisms is more complicated than simply sticking someone in a freezer...)

Anyway, don't cold shock cubes. It doesn't do anything--they are, as said above, tropical. That is in the FAQ because people mention it every other day. You can dunk them in the fridge or out, it doesn't really matter, so long as the water and container are clean and you rinse them before putting them in. Dunking them in the fridge may reduce the risk of contamination, as said, but I've never had a problem with an out-of-fridge dunk, which is way more convenient for speed (they seem to absorb water more quickly at room temp, as you might expect) and for convenience, in case you're working with more than a dozen or so cakes that may be hard to fit in the fridge.


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