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how long till full colonization?!
    #7198118 - 07/19/07 02:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I was wondering how long does it take to fully colonize about 30lbs of composted manure in a 30gal tub? I used 3 fully colonized pint jars of BRF/verm. I put them in my food processor and blended them until it was pretty fine. I then thoroughly mixed everything in the tub. I did this on July 11th. This is How the tub looks today. It seems like forever and a day. Every day that passes by is one day of possible contamination. I'm bitting my nails!


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7198123 - 07/19/07 02:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

So you did 3 pints to 30 pounds ? isnt that like a 1:15 ratio?


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7198126 - 07/19/07 02:16 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I forgot to add that this is Orrisa India kept at about 81 degrees


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7198130 - 07/19/07 02:17 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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So you did 3 pins to 30 pounds ? isnt that like a 1:15 ratio?




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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7198134 - 07/19/07 02:18 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

lol i meant to say pints......the norm is about a 1:5 maybe 1:10 ratio at the max it just seems like a very small amount of spawn for so much compost.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7198192 - 07/19/07 02:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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lol i meant to say pints......the norm is about a 1:5 maybe 1:10 ratio at the max it just seems like a very small amount of spawn for so much compost.



So this would be pretty good considering.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7198200 - 07/19/07 02:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

since you didnt use that much spawn and a ton of compost it will just take longer to colonize(maybe another 5-8 days) i would have spawned 6-8 quart jars to that 30 pounds of compost.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7198213 - 07/19/07 02:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I have done a 500ml brf cake to a block of coir once so that was like a 1/20 lol I just broke up the cake really small then I mixed the crap out of it in a big bag grinding it all together colonized in a week did fine for two flushes.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7198226 - 07/19/07 02:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

wow thats nuts weird huh i only use wbs so i dunno but since the nutes that are in the wbs or brf help a flush i tend to use more plus i get 110% colonized in 5 days hehe.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: xaxphaanes]
    #7198282 - 07/19/07 02:49 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

how does that avoid contamination?

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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: robsomebody]
    #7198297 - 07/19/07 02:53 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It don't I got really lucky.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #7199104 - 07/19/07 06:26 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Jeez man, what I'm wondering...Is how did you pasteurize your 30lbs of composted manure? LOL...your house must smell like shit...LOL...

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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: psiloglow]
    #7199188 - 07/19/07 06:42 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Jeez man, what I'm wondering...Is how did you pasteurize your 30lbs of composted manure? LOL...your house must smell like shit...LOL...

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I actually sterilized.  9 serparate 3+lbs bags.  Three bags at a time in my PC for 1 hour at 15 psi.  Yes it took ALL NIGHT LONG.  I wasn't really bothered by the smell, but it chased my wife and kid into their rooms!  My wife said, "Babe, next time you do that make sure all the windows are open and I'm at work please."  I said "Sorry..:heart:"
I didn't pasteurize because I treated the 30 lbs as if it was substrate.  You sterilize your bulk substrates don't you?


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: The shroomy 1]
    #7199277 - 07/19/07 06:55 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, I do but I use Deep Lasagna pans and just started trying it. Never really done bulk subtrate before. I took about 3-4 lbs Composted cow manure, watered to field cpacity as best i could. Cover with layers of heavy duty foil, put in oven about 300 degrees for 2 hours roughly. Kills everything as far as i know. I haev one going now, just checked, and looks ok. It progressing. Crumbled 3 cakes into it and they broke surface. Now i mixed ina little verm for texture. I am going to try 2 half pint cakes, no verm, just straight composted cow dung, maybe 3-4 lbs. Whaddya think? Better than mixing in verm? L8R

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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: psiloglow]
    #7199299 - 07/19/07 07:00 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

BTW, what are your plans for casing the bulk substrate? L8R

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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: psiloglow]
    #7199754 - 07/19/07 08:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

You pasteurize bulk substrates not sterilize. You're killing all of the beneficial microbes when you sterilize. You just want to heat your bulk substrate in order to kill off any contam spores.


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Re: how long till full colonization?! [Re: psiloglow]
    #7201286 - 07/20/07 05:28 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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BTW, what are your plans for casing the bulk substrate? L8R

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I'm going to use a Peat Moss / Sphagnum blend with verm. I'll use gypsum and lime to adjust the PH.


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